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To: Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
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Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc Makefile src/include Makefile src/release Makefile src/release/picobsd/build Makefile.mfs src/release/picobsd/custom Makefile.mfs src/release/picobsd/dial Makefile.mfs src/release/picobsd/install Makefile.mfs 
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From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.osd.bsdi.com>
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> The problem is that if you have a symbolic link for things like /tmp,
> /var/tmp, /var/mail, etc then without -L you'd continue to have
> insecure permissions if you botched the initial install.  It is a
> relatively weak reason, but an important one for those that need it.

I'm still not convinced that we're not trying to out-clever ourselves
and the administrator who is _supposed_ to know what they are doing
through this change.  I've read Andrey's arguments and, at best, they
strike me as _seriously_ weak.

I'm also still wondering what the other *BSDs are doing here - I don't
have a NetBSD or OpenBSD box to check, but if someone else does I'd
very much like to know.

- Jordan


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