From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 22 08:52:21 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201E2106566B for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 08:52:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [IPv6:2a01:170:102f::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9739C8FC1A for ; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 08:52:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id oBM8q3JE039124; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 09:52:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id oBM8q2Qi039123; Wed, 22 Dec 2010 09:52:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 09:52:03 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <201012220852.oBM8q2Qi039123@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-arch User-Agent: tin/1.8.3-20070201 ("Scotasay") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/6.4-PRERELEASE-20080904 (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.5 (lurza.secnetix.de [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 22 Dec 2010 09:52:18 +0100 (CET) Cc: Subject: Re: Schedule for releases X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 08:52:21 -0000 Erik Cederstrand wrote: > Den 21/12/2010 kl. 23.28 skrev Robert Watson: > > Looking at 7.x, I'm struck by how much it has slowed down. > > There's a significant user community, but not a significant > > developer community. > > Which pretty much sums up a dilemma in the development of > FreeBSD, I think. Developers want users to try out their new > shiny stuff, but users don't want to spend time upgrading. For me, personally, one significant problem is that I don't have the resources to easily run several versions of FreeBSD at home. I have a stable/8 installation, but I can't easily install another one (i.e. stable/7) at the same time, which would be required for testing and support. Well, I could set up a dual-boot environment somehow with a second disk, but that's time-consuming and annoying. I also have to confess that my motivation to spend time supporting an "old" branch is somewhat low because I don't use that branch myself anymore for some time already. Probably quite a few developers are in a similar situation, I guess. Best regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd "I invented Ctrl-Alt-Delete, but Bill Gates made it famous." -- David Bradley, original IBM PC design team