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MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ipnet: 2a01:111:f000::/36(-3.61), asn: 8075(-2.95), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 11:40:51 -0000 --Sig_/x7g5VVWXsoOE8ZR_GM67vNa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 18:51:41 -0700, Adam Weinberger stated: >On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 6:38 PM Kevin P. Neal >wrote: >> >> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 01:01:52AM -0600, Greg Rivers wrote: =20 >> > As of last August, Microsoft have relaxed the patent restrictions >> > on exFAT[1]. >> > >> > Can the Makefile LICENSE_PERMS_MSPAT restrictions be removed from >> > sysutils/fusefs-exfat? Might exFAT make it into the FreeBSD base >> > system (like msdosfs) one day? >> > >> > >> > [1] >> > >> > =20 >> >> I'm not sure that counts as a license. IANAL, but I'd like to see an >> explicit granting of a license to anyone at no cost, and the license >> needs to be transferable. >> >> The way Berkeley eliminated the advertising clause was good. Simply >> saying "Microsoft is supporting the addition of" doesn't really say >> anything. It's a statement of corporate direction and nothing else. =20 > >Expanding on what Kevin said, >https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/mtl/exfat-licen= sing.aspx >suggests that (a) exFAT is still patented and restricted as before, >and (b) GPLv2 licensing was granted only for the Linux kernel module >that they submitted. > >The BSD License grants the ability to use BSD-licensed code in >commercial products, so I'm not sure that Microsoft would want to >relax their licensing for us. As Kevin said, IANAL. > ># Adam I imagine that someone could actually inquire. It would cost nothing and end this FUD that is surrounding this subject. http://aka.ms/celaiplicensing --=20 Carmel --Sig_/x7g5VVWXsoOE8ZR_GM67vNa Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEIQb/tTwl6I1ueEVtOHMGOIfexWQFAl4J4jUACgkQOHMGOIfe xWS6Bgf/dhEnvF0pLzV3+U81psREMFeAG9OfsebhJz00+qPhUZlaRNmdK6VycD9q 2gZmV2iKAzHgw+SZcaVK1nGZStQ31phgILhAEys3U8fywcaErSKCwJvjo2kjp4fS JqiakJ/0aC3LHII9aSuSrb8yv/cYiWWpWYoWz6VjIfoIU2VAY6xUg4In0QWzb5Th ecdRg0RbBbjigHJWGS/QNyDLJnY2mPR5z+1fghmfJi7QnLtGUJ3ZWF1HTmg6y/5M HogWwQ++dS+RftjU2hQy9E6nqXXl2zgOw6yr2X3tbGZLX336Dyu1PuhR+7qnvE9B P89rzXI/Dby3kdBcPXAM5R13IsqpZg== =k7dE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/x7g5VVWXsoOE8ZR_GM67vNa--