From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Sun Dec 3 11:00:39 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A0BDF74F1 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 11:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gljennjohn@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F4E746BC for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 11:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gljennjohn@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 612C5DF74F0; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 11:00:39 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60C83DF74EF for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 11:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gljennjohn@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22b.google.com (mail-wm0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E40F2746BA for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 11:00:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gljennjohn@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id g130so10966604wme.0 for ; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 03:00:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=l0oc2SRd1GC7W/HcT34j2YuLvGh+MCkiLUBZ4BeLZeY=; b=eurnBnkdwug09U9WrvUalmAzMxHH/FD2CxZjo+RlckSp7T6XTH6XCXQ2n1zDG6ZEYz 1x5O0pNw3IzJLJaHcc0JLzrHSMrdvKGZp6UIWQ6ffGht/V7q6zJiL5iKrzl/yN0yetkG AXgxwUPOgwx3wmiatEwxOa37Oqv4FZCp4+SAdWnDYQS8wih2x180+61VqMcpJCYynJ3M 53v2Y3gP7mU7yImSDdxHHwJjYs6pSqS/bk/lakcqoiZbI+YFolxtgK3FCAuwzaAyT2+w ikQIbceMVENuWxnmA73z9g8T3RWQqSJK36FhWZdJxy8X7h4wBTSvqdRo5DVEGR2kPMtA 9htA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=l0oc2SRd1GC7W/HcT34j2YuLvGh+MCkiLUBZ4BeLZeY=; b=MVGiGYapTBzAKvO4VeSFf69g1KmCpvrncspQ4e0nKFkb37oCpOPrZFYv3cwNCPMd9e SM8ATV/zkfrvEfxjD2PZlUFO2qh8nqzbOBMrZvpuIFCTfdYCZAit98g7OtxjyHFJdXya fMvr5RQf4Coz9KPmSuamRN0MjDj7lZq83YaXJLzJWHAwtp4IV6HUleqqwDXA3dq0szw+ Hv9H50v2QvczAHTUgxLg0xwNgsUFPBnT0/0qKTMgCOK1VJp+lEUvE7eES6swwcFvdMJl rbxdDghRFWP80VV3EYmnrJg59tK+MpjPrCWnJacBPnNp4J6rZmsnrZvDnxVLusYyJ1Gk Uy0g== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mLzQj8ZUuqaTES5u5nLyk1qFrX0kjy4jKE8OHaVYrTzO8NrV6Ec bVOgAt69hQgj7TkF4m3CXfo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMZ6feNIyfWi7e7OIqmUAhizNwQDJp/e4q9pg4Kz7Yj2v1ZINVaO/xUesatGBimOJ547th9Ycg== X-Received: by 10.28.65.65 with SMTP id o62mr826492wma.112.1512298836165; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 03:00:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from ernst.home (p578E0E39.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [87.142.14.57]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l142sm5475373wmb.43.2017.12.03.03.00.33 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sun, 03 Dec 2017 03:00:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2017 12:00:28 +0100 From: Gary Jennejohn To: "Poul-Henning Kamp" Cc: Hans Petter Selasky , Eitan Adler , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Deprecating / Removing floppy drive support Message-ID: <20171203120028.32f84314@ernst.home> In-Reply-To: <67961.1512296877@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <201712030616.vB36GFEg026146@slippy.cwsent.com> <43746890-e60a-5c8f-4c77-bbfe9a5a6aa9@selasky.org> <67961.1512296877@critter.freebsd.dk> Reply-To: gljennjohn@gmail.com X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.15.1 (GTK+ 2.24.31; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2017 11:00:39 -0000 On Sun, 03 Dec 2017 10:27:57 +0000 "Poul-Henning Kamp" wrote: > -------- > In message <43746890-e60a-5c8f-4c77-bbfe9a5a6aa9@selasky.org>, Hans Petter Selasky writes: > > >I think as long as you can read and write USB floppy drives under > >FreeBSD, this change is OK. Even though floppies are old-tech they are > >still important: > > > >https://news.slashdot.org/story/16/05/25/2054255/us-military-uses-8-inch-floppy-disks-to-coordinate-nuclear-force-operations > > Incidentally FreeBSD is/was the only modern OS which could > still read 8" floppies. > Really? I still have an 8" drive and floppies laying around. But try to find a controller for a modern computer which doesn't even have one for a 3-1/2" floppy drive.. -- Gary Jennejohn