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WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <056ee35e-4645-6ffe-e0a9-9b4940a5ba1a@freebsd.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LLlUMfkBmBH9rOo2jVukFZki0BAOiPemp" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48tgjS5YfBz44LG X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.84 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.93)[-0.933,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.91)[-0.909,0]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2020 00:26:57 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --LLlUMfkBmBH9rOo2jVukFZki0BAOiPemp Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="suAlySf6Od3NlNz69cwYlS8J8FVUgJ8mu"; protected-headers="v1" From: Allan Jude To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Message-ID: <3e98500f-f966-1552-992d-71fa86196f57@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Office Hours: April 1, 2020 18:00 UTC References: <5cae4eda-b3e9-a65e-a2dc-8f9435f20236@freebsd.org> <056ee35e-4645-6ffe-e0a9-9b4940a5ba1a@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <056ee35e-4645-6ffe-e0a9-9b4940a5ba1a@freebsd.org> --suAlySf6Od3NlNz69cwYlS8J8FVUgJ8mu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2020-04-01 16:01, Allan Jude wrote: > On 2020-03-29 20:25, Allan Jude wrote: >> Hello everyone >> >> This coming Wednesday at 18:00 UTC we will hold the first "FreeBSD >> Office Hours", an interactive online event where users, contributors, >> and developers can ask questions and get advice. >> >> We are still experimenting with the format, but the first iteration wi= ll >> be an open Google Meet: >> >> https://meet.google.com/yak-ydnk-rnc >> >> That will also be recorded and posted to Youtube later in the day. >> >> We are still seeking some additional src, ports, and docs committers t= o >> help field the questions as well. >> >=20 > Our first FreeBSD Office Hours event was a success with over 60 people > in attendance. >=20 > I've not had time to edit and post the video yet, but it is available i= n > the DVR buffer on the streaming page: >=20 > https://live.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/officehours/ >=20 >=20 snip (replaced with more detailed notes below) >=20 > We hope to try this again in 2 weeks, at a different time to make it > easier for people who could not attend this week. >=20 > Thanks to everyone who came out and asked or answered questions. >=20 The slightly edited down video has been posted to youtube, so if you missed the event you can watch it here: https://youtu.be/6qBm5NM3zTQ I've created a playlist on the official FreeBSD youtube account, so you can subscribe to be notified when new videos are posted. Based on how things went during the live stream, I think in the future we will have most people attend via the live stream and IRC chat here: https://live.freebsd.org/FreeBSD/officehours/ If you wish to join the IRC directly, it is #freebsd on irc.geekshed.net (It uses that IRC server because it integrates with the video stream) That URL also uses the DVR feature of the live stream, meaning you can pause and rewind the live stream, and continue to watch the live stream even once the event is over. This weeks office hours video should remain up there until the next live stream, planned for April 15th. And, special thanks to Tom Jones for co-hosting with me, and for taking much better notes than I did, inline below: - what is your favourite feature of freebsd? - Is OpenZFS port production ready? Who's using it? - Here's a hard one: sometimes when I power cycle an entire JBOD, not every device comes back. I think there are three distinct bugs. First, sometimes a small number of disks don't come back, but they do after a "camcontrol rescan". That's not a major problem. Secondly, sometimes "mprutil show devices" doesn't show the missing disks. That's probably an HBA or driver bug. But third, sometimes "mprutil show devices" shows everything that ought to be present. And yet "camcontrol devlist" doesn't. In that situation, "camcontrol rescan" does not help. I suspect that the problem has something to do with an expander disappearing, and "camcontrol rescan" not knowing how to rescan for that, but it's just a guess. I'm willing to work on this problem myself, but I don't know CAM very well. Can somebody give me tips to get started? - if i had a usb hdmi capture card and I wanted it working on freebsd (it currently connects and gets a video device but it doesn't function or let you capture from it) what would be the best way to debug that and get it working? - is anyone working on a faster alternative to bridge and epair for vnet enabled jails? - question: it's kind of hard to have people start contributing to FreeBSD, either for ports, src or doc. I was wondering if there will be a possibility to have some kind of official "mentorship program"? where people can set their skill and interest and committers can have them under mentorship? - Question for Dan. Now that BSDCan is now cancelled and now being turned into a Internet based conference, when can we expect to have more detail about how that's going to work? - I don't have a question, but some brief thoughts on where I'm having issues. I knew 2.x.x series really well, 4.x extremely well, and 8.x extremely well. From that point on I found that the effort to track down undocumented things or rationales for why things changed got really hard. Looking to get up to speed on 11.x and 12.x as I lean into admin instead of web development again, and the docu spread is really hard to deal with. - question: I have a huge pile of ansible plays all for freebsd, would anybody want to join forces on publishing these as a community contributi= on? - dch - Is there any plans to create official pkgbase repo to play with? It's rather hard to convince yourself to try pkgbase if you need to build everything yourself, but I'm OK with being the guinea pig if the pkgbase repo is provided. - (mostly to clusteradm): so in this part of the world (Armenia for example), pkg repo is VERY slow, I was wondering if other users can setup mirrors? (I have found https://wiki.freebsd.org/Teams/clusteradm/tiny-mirror ) but anyone can give more info? . and related: any plans to have public repos where the verification (KGB, just in case) can be done by pkg by some other way? - Which "tiny computers" (Raspberry Pi-like) have the best support on FreeBSD these days, and are likely to continue good support? -- Leif Pedersen - does the bootloader support booting from pools with dataset encryption?= - Is anybody attempting to merge FreeBSD's zfs test suite with openzfs's ZFS test suite? - If you had to choose between mailing lists or forums for a question that might benefit from developer eyes, which one? - The graphics support has been greatly improved recently, which is a huge plus for FreeBSD-on-desktop. Is there any plans to support Wi-Fi development, especialy 5GHz, which will make FreeBSD on desktop even more enjoyable? -- Sergey Kozlov - can we get http/2 (for example) on mirrors ? also, would that help anyway if fetch is not capable of doing that? - ZFS ARC in NUMA systems --=20 Allan Jude --suAlySf6Od3NlNz69cwYlS8J8FVUgJ8mu-- --LLlUMfkBmBH9rOo2jVukFZki0BAOiPemp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJehoFyAAoJEBmVNT4SmAt+BCIQANduDFCkxhaW9tP4jhbRJtD6 WAvLU/aShR02XULT8b7FFNxxvrWQ3/nssARJoipVSEjjpMF0yYKEUrhz2kSLAVTG mFGJLE6NHGPR9/J1tawOfZGGdSyPv6x9flaBfuO2+vJmjgDOnSkIZzasgQ0CZUfi pdhC9V1l4gxbnL/xncMFoCnw4LVZhAKUAC4ZFiYhvc49pFYP4/N3ZGRDqLjvys0x f/Bxh60A/LU0BtLWJoRmpp5Pc+W/l6dhUJ2MCx3rQ1HPb1A/IKdNoRxhCjA+peZx 7fjYn/BXP53YxuVRvN+uqOllzRqoGYmn4Jxsw1tmISVcJkGj9DZ4PLlqDTScYOPB md1uVOFqHaNk79dzW9JHnbG6ENA1j/xXIP+DaIxRnuF8x8pumXXgEfaRsV8s6fkP SnYwGB4ETrCtNq6pA7ofhSRYtIx6Ci8LXtCpb3B6m1CxsVAHkWWuULsA7s5NjdCR wUQtbAjv1kKSpL8M570ALZug2NRSwniZyk5h+mGpwv8uUB3I5wFEcc9pB1CkNz69 V4BTDy43Bd2Tyz8m8C3O/N0TuEA6282yLjTujU8Ym+vwBKeaK8QrB0TqJRRa8dDE ZXTnTijwi8Mh8fGkVslQFgcE4QBiU5+5lKADtX2n15Z6nOXWFzrPZ3R0HjdIvxTP q9b7EQopNn8S6gSLbxrv =18Pm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LLlUMfkBmBH9rOo2jVukFZki0BAOiPemp--