From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 14 0:51:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amyris.wanadoo.fr (smtp-abo-2.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D5937B42C for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 00:51:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.dockes.com (164.138.128.227) by amyris.wanadoo.fr; 14 Sep 2000 09:51:26 +0200 Received: (from dockes@localhost) by localhost.dockes.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA03834; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:51:21 +0200 (MEST) From: Jean-Francois Dockes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14784.33648.251152.511680@localhost.dockes.com> Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:51:12 +0200 (MEST) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: "Kenneth D. Merry" Subject: Re: SCSI retries without errors in /var/log/messages? In-Reply-To: <20000911130644.A50024@panzer.kdm.org> References: <20000911162530.34FC599C8C@waltz.rahul.net> <20000911130644.A50024@panzer.kdm.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kenneth D. Merry writes: > SCSI errors that we recover from aren't logged. I think that most SCSI retries should be logged. Except in some specific cases of retries after a unit attention condition, retries are usually indicative of hardware trouble. Don't most devices already use a number of internal retries which is appropriate when they are healthy ? When external retries become necessary and frequent, the situation is bad, and subsequent failures are quite probable. Better to be warned earlier. (There are also the retries caused by scsi protocol problems - bad bus - but these are usually followed by a bus reset which is logged ?) And, by the way, 'recovered errors' sense keys (problems solved internally by the device) should also be logged for the same reason, only more benign, (but I'm not too sure that many devices actually generate these). Jean-Francois Dockes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message