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Date:      Sun, 14 Sep 2025 08:27:02 -0400
From:      Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net>
To:        freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: IPv6 networking problems in 14.3
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 9/13/2025 22:39, Chris Ross wrote:<=
span
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    <blockquote type=3D"cite"
      cite=3D"mid:DC84D8EC-B084-4AF1-B3F4-413323DA613A@distal.com">
      <pre wrap=3D"" class=3D"moz-quote-pre">

Internet6:                                                               =
                                                =20
Destination                       Gateway                       Flags    =
     Netif Expire                               =20
::/96                             link#3                        URS      =
       lo0                                      =20
default                           fe80::3e8a:b0ff:fe3e:4dce%vlan0 UG     =
     vlan0                                      =20
::1                               link#3                        UHS      =
       lo0                                      =20
::ffff:0.0.0.0/96                 link#3                        URS      =
       lo0                                      =20

But, as noted earlier, that gateway has no MAC, because I=E2=80=99m never=
 getting the response to the NS.

% ndp -an | grep 'fe80::3e8a:b0ff:fe3e:4dce'
fe80::3e8a:b0ff:fe3e:4dce%vlan0      (incomplete)       vlan0 expired   I=
=20

My dhcpcd.conf that filtered w.r.t. internal networks, and many comments =
removed, are:
----------
duid
vendorclassid
option classless_static_routes
option rapid_commit
require dhcp_server_identifier
slaac private
debug
noipv6rs
noipv4
noipv4ll
allowinterfaces vlan0
interface vlan0
  ipv6only
  # In theory one can get an address with IA_NA, but Verion FiOS doesn't
  # provide an address like that.  Try ipv6rs
  ipv6rs
  #ia_na 0
  ipv6ra_autoconf
  # Request a /56, then from that allocate the following subnets as noted=

  # 12  14  17  A4  DD  72  0F 66
  ia_pd 0/::/56 int1/18 int2/20 int3/23 int4/164 int5/221 int6/114 int7/1=
5 int8/102
-----------

=E2=80=9CintN=E2=80=9D replacements and different IPv6 subnets, but the a=
bove is what I have in effect.

Thanks.  Apologies to anyone who isn=E2=80=99t deeply involved for the lo=
ng message.  :-)

      - Chris</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <p><span style=3D"white-space: pre-wrap">That gateway isn't by any ch=
ance running out of RAM such as on nanobsd (e.g. /var is volatile) is it?=
</span></p>
    <p><span style=3D"white-space: pre-wrap">If so the duid is non-fixed =
and some ISPs will have a hiss-fit in that they "marry" the MAC on your e=
nd to the MAC on the ONT along with the duid and use that internally.  If=
 the duid changes but the MAC does not it will not arp and you're hosed a=
s their end has no internal map back to your gateway thus you don't get t=
he advertisements (and in some cases no delegation either!) and it doesn'=
t come up.</span></p>
    <p><span style=3D"white-space: pre-wrap">I also have "noarp" in my co=
nfig which otherwise made the ISP's gear upset.  In addition I have made =
sure the duid doesn't change (try "duid ll" which will generate one that =
won't so long as the interface it is applied to doesn't) and/or move /var=
/db/dhcpcd to something that can be sync'd (e.g. symlink it to /usr/local=
/etc/db/dhcpcd and then after the first boot sync that) so the duid file =
gets restored on a restart.</span></p>
    <p><span style=3D"white-space: pre-wrap">I ran into this with my fibe=
r here; the former cable company did not care if all this was volatile on=
 a restart however the fiber firm did it was a load of fun to get someone=
 on the phone who actually could figure out *why* their system got mad an=
d wouldn't reconnect.  In my case their end would return an IPv4 address =
and function but would not come back up on IPv6 unless they cleared their=
 internal tables manually.</span></p>
    <p><span style=3D"white-space: pre-wrap">My gateway is running 14.3:<=
/span></p>
    <p><span style=3D"white-space: pre-wrap">FreeBSD 14.3-STABLE #0 stabl=
e/14-n271456-70068b3030f9-dirty: Mon May 12 18:53:58 EDT 2025     <a clas=
s=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:karl@NewFS.denninger.net:/w=
ork/OBJ/Crochet-work-AMD14/usr/src.14-STABLE/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC">kar=
l@NewFS.denninger.net:/work/OBJ/Crochet-work-AMD14/usr/src.14-STABLE/amd6=
4.amd64/sys/GENERIC</a>
</span></p>
    <p><span style=3D"white-space: pre-wrap">The "dirty" is because I als=
o patched rtadvd so it honors the vltime and pltime parameters on interfa=
ces (which it does NOT "as shipped"; I have reported this as a bug with a=
 brief patch that fixes it, but it hasn't been picked up or merged.)</spa=
n></p>
    <div class=3D"moz-signature">-- <br>
      Karl Denninger<br>
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