From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 24 00:21:09 1996 Return-Path: owner-current Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id AAA05091 for current-outgoing; Fri, 24 May 1996 00:21:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from beeblebrox.cc.jyu.fi (beeblebrox.cc.jyu.fi [130.234.41.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA05086 for ; Fri, 24 May 1996 00:21:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kallio@localhost) by beeblebrox.cc.jyu.fi (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA15163; Fri, 24 May 1996 10:20:54 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Fri, 24 May 1996 10:20:54 +0300 (EET DST) From: Seppo Kallio To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , adrian@virginia.edu, p.richards@elsevier.co.uk, msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: editors In-Reply-To: <4680.832892298@time.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 23 May 1996, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Perhaps it is not out of the question to add an option to vi that would put > > this and a few other things on the bottom of the screen... a small addition > > to vi would be smaller than any additional editor as far as source code > > sizes go :-) > > Indeed, or even to hack on `ee' until it's closer to everyone's ideal. > I'm not wedded to its current keymap, ya know. :-) ee could be OK. I think most "hackers" use emacs, and novices goto emacs sooner or later. Help of ee is not good. I had problems how to exit from it! The main tasks you must be able to do are: Function pico emacs ee vi exit+save C-x C-x C-c C-c exit ZZ * delete line C-k C-k C-y dd * delete characters Del Del Del (?) x * add characters a a a a ** add lines a a a a ** a = just type it in (and use enter for new line - complicated for some novices) * = you must be in command mode ** = you must be in input mode pico: all main commands all time on the screen emacs: read the manual or help ee: most main commands on the screen (exept exit+save) vi: read the manual or help Many pico commands same as in emacs, ee commands from TurboPascal/WordStar ? Seppo