From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jun 4 7: 8:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from magicnet.magicnet.net (magicnet.magicnet.net [204.96.116.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC4C8151DA for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 07:08:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@bilver.magicnet.net) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by magicnet.magicnet.net (8.8.6/8.8.8) with UUCP id KAA09829 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:06:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from bill@localhost) by bilver.magicnet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id KAA17427 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:04:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Vermillion Message-Id: <199906041404.KAA17427@bilver.magicnet.net> Subject: Re: Routers and such In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990603232221.04383030@granite.sentex.ca> from Mike Tancsa at "Jun 3, 1999 11:34:47 pm" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:03:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Tancsa recently said: > At 11:02 PM 6/3/99 , Bruce Campbell wrote: > > >On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Mike Tancsa wrote: > > > >mike> >Rest assured that FreeBSD will handle your needs for some > >mike> >time to come. > >mike> > >mike> I think the major place where FreeBSD falls down in terms > >mike> of routing is software. Although gateD does the job, you > >mike> dont nearly have the same features as you would with a > >mike> higher end Cisco. > >If you want an expensive reliable black box with a few blinking > >lights, buy a Cisco. If you want a Cisco-like features on an > >intel platform, choose mrt or zebra, both in the ports collection > >I believe. Gated ain't the only PC-routing game in town. > >(Not that I've got any but passing knowledge with either, and my > >cisco experience consists of replacing at short notice the core > >Bay router of my previous employment) > >If you're serious about shifting data, get a serious router. > >Anything with moving parts is not 'serious' enough. > Depends how much you want to move, and how much you want to spend, > and what sort of knowledge base you have to draw on. $2K for a > pair of PEECEE routers, v.s. $20K, and then service contracts, > IOS revs is a lot of money to spend if you dont need to. I have > been to customer sites where they have 4700s with IP+ to move > data across a fractional T1. That was serious... Serious waste of > money. Well I have a few Cicso's - only 1 had a service contract on it - to get the new ROMS upgrade - an older 2501. The other 2501/7/11's are not under contract, and were purchased used. Our 7513 was also purchased used with a HSSI care, 8 serial ports, 8 ethernet ports, dual power supplies, for $32K - 1.5 years old, new in the box, surplus. It has no contract. (severe overkill but a contract required a DS3 link, and as it was more expandable, and not that much more money, that's why it was done). Used market Cicso's are decent bargains - check the industrial type mags for those who sell them. Depending on levels you may not need the latest IOS. -- bv@wjv.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message