From owner-freebsd-current Sun Dec 27 10:18:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA19178 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:18:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA19173 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 10:18:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from greenpeace.grondar.za (greenpeace.grondar.za [196.7.18.132]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA14514; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:17:48 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by greenpeace.grondar.za (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA38656; Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:17:44 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199812271817.UAA38656@greenpeace.grondar.za> To: Brian Feldman cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wanton Atticizing is bad In-Reply-To: Your message of " Sun, 27 Dec 1998 13:07:07 EST." References: Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1998 20:17:39 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brian Feldman wrote: > > We now need (tr: I would like) some kind of "ports-like" mechanism > > for kernel bits, such as example kld so devices can be written by > > the general population _and_maintained_ as ports code (kinda like > > Agree, MORE than wholeheartedly! I was thinking of proposing > converting these older drivers to modules in ports, with the > associated utilities, but I thought it would be too risque to > propose. It probably is, seeing as noone wants to maintain these > drivers let alone modularize them. The ports idea brings a question > though: what do we do about device majors? I suppose DEVFS will really fix that problem; if the lkd has some mechanism to request a major number out of a pool set aside for the purpose, and DEVFS could make it visible. > > the commercial sound driver). > > OSS is horrible. Sure, but it is separately maintained - that is the point. We do not have or need its code in the kernel, it is an LKM written by "outsiders" IIRC. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message