From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Feb 17 07:37:30 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7307EF17078 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2018 07:37:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) Received: from sonic301-20.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (sonic301-20.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [77.238.176.97]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E564A6C901 for ; Sat, 17 Feb 2018 07:37:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@rocketmail.com) X-YMail-OSG: 12MYb28VM1l5L0trRs4L764sK7trA0P0p13xVCTxUsWelYGIOujphUMyhKFanNZ N7mbQf3OdlUmDhdkDGSml2ZxdAx95QUd8DNzoRdKqX7klqgq8f6xdGAB617mvduEwdoNbkkQdIq7 O.g4ewfhQ.tPQHarXHEBQ8Eep2xw08R6dlRyS1ZofLqbFAYXD41F8ylXdy8a.wAXyeZdg.p_E8JY vWvzP4.lyRJ6crWr31yBICLuZTXiN00WjRNCo_1n9pUuKq8V.RWdAUYhv9l5L3DTWJk2W9DNsqts kV9.x6oDPhGa3u87Rr4GR4_Ta1pvTAfax9vToxd_33jEhTnkQ6a4rDS6EK3.tXN0m6D7NWYi8I53 t6Qh7TWOCoKOr5bCP8gEZ2mCp8e1NAxrDV6nDVA6tOs8A0FwOd_DOn3YEBH8qGGCIqjkr4gLggqV 6teCHFFpNzntIHnhStVzXPjzVnKf8t.CHbGjBvuAYmy2BXwdyhNqkvw3Z64kWRYKrcoKB_HM_oVI HQNps50vrSazpKYUlLwWuxh03UBwIyabv75IRI66IvvjYaOA.GAk- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic301.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 17 Feb 2018 07:37:21 +0000 Received: from smtp170.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (EHLO archlinux.localdomain) ([46.228.39.37]) by smtp415.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (JAMES SMTP Server ) with ESMTPA ID 1bbba5ca01597fd084cec4a03ea6d4f0; Sat, 17 Feb 2018 07:37:20 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 08:37:22 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Matthias Apitz Subject: Re: File fransfer from iPad to FreeBSD Message-ID: <20180217083722.52d9c8be@archlinux.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20180216100345.GA25370@sh4-5.1blu.de> References: <20180216104703.555e9987.freebsd@edvax.de> <20180216100345.GA25370@sh4-5.1blu.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0git24 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 07:37:30 -0000 Off-topic: On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 11:03:45 +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: >My suggestion: > >Don't use an iPhone. Use an OpenSource mobile like UPports running >Ubuntu, see https://forums.ubports.com/ , or Purism's librem-5, see >https://puri.sm/posts/librem5-progress-report-4/ > >I have the first one since 2015 (and you just SSH into it) and ordered >the 2nd one too. An iPad is not the same as an iPhone, however, no other tablet PC is real-time audio capable, excepted of the iPad, let alone that companies such as Arturia provide the best value for money, the ratio is much better than when using free as in beer FLOSS software, since companiers such as Arturia offer top-level products for a few EUR. Just gettinmg software for free as in beer, doesn't mean that you get things done with this software in a reasonable time, if at all. To keep a long story short, it's just one example, why users are willing to take all the disadvantages of an iPad, resp. of Apple's restrictions. It might depend on the country, but indeed, even to use an iPad without accessing the store, you need to give critical information to Apple, since the Apple ID e.g. is generated from bank account number and email adresse. That an app requires an iOS upgrade could be an app developer's decision, but that Apple does discontinue supporting a few years old iPads, by not providing iOS upgrades, is an Apple decision, not done for technical reasons, without doubts it's done out of sheer greed for profit.