From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jul 11 23:28:44 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D19B92CEB for ; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 23:28:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ofca@ofca.me) Received: from zimbra.nitronet.pl (zimbra.nitronet.pl [79.98.150.2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 203AE1256; Mon, 11 Jul 2016 23:28:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ofca@ofca.me) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.nitronet.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEA4261087; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 01:21:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zimbra.nitronet.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.nitronet.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id ICpYLsTkQVqw; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 01:21:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.nitronet.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5588A61095; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 01:21:26 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.nitronet.pl Received: from zimbra.nitronet.pl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.nitronet.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id rB0ZiXca-cdU; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 01:21:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from h4F629606.cli.nitronet.pl (h4F629606.cli.nitronet.pl [79.98.150.6]) by zimbra.nitronet.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3909561087; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 01:21:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 01:22:38 +0200 From: =?windows-1250?Q?Pawe=B3_Tyll?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1811960453.20160712012238@ofca.me> To: Glen Barber , Alan Somers CC: "Conrad E. Meyer" , Ronald Klop , freebsd-current Subject: Re: FreeBSD-11.0-BETA1-amd64-disc1.iso is too big for my 700MB CD-r In-Reply-To: <20160711214144.GA7465@FreeBSD.org> References: <20160711214144.GA7465@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 11:42:20 +0000 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 23:28:44 -0000 Hello Glen, > This was actually a known "going to be problem" thing for 11.0. I'm > looking into how to fix this for 11.0-RELEASE, but right now, there is > not much more we can exclude from it. :( While the fact that .xz version is roughly 500MB is quite solid evidence that one can fit under 700MB with effort, I'm not sure if this is worthwhile. As mentioned earlier, it's 2016, and pretty much everything can be booted from USB stick for a decade or so, and VMs usually emulate DVD drives anyway, which don't care whether the image is 600MB, 777MB or 3GB. /usr/bin/clang can be compressed down from 49MB to 14MB by some binary packer, if feasible. There are some other binaries, not as large tough. /boot/kernel/* - 103MB -> 38MB - but is there any infrastructure to load compressed kernel modules, and kernel images? ports.txz can be easily fetched from the net and are useless without network connection anyway (right?) - saving of another 34MB. Those 3 things should shave off about 130MB of the 173MB needed to fit on 80-min CD-R. But... why this abstract number anyway? Why not 650MB CD-R? Why not overburnable 800MB 90-min CD-R or even 870MB 99-min CD-R? :) And what of FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE? Kind regards.