From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Jan 7 19:37:30 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58DBAA669B7 for ; Thu, 7 Jan 2016 19:37:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (bigwig.baldwin.cx [IPv6:2001:470:1f11:75::1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39AE81E3A; Thu, 7 Jan 2016 19:37:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from ralph.baldwin.cx (c-73-231-226-104.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [73.231.226.104]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DEE0CB9A6; Thu, 7 Jan 2016 14:37:28 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Cc: Michael Gmelin , Matthias Apitz Subject: Re: after update to r292778 no interface ath0 and wlan0 Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2016 10:49:04 -0800 Message-ID: <8663632.xqvS8b7ZrH@ralph.baldwin.cx> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.3 (FreeBSD/10.2-STABLE; KDE/4.14.3; amd64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20160107165507.0ce7e874@bsd64.grem.de> References: <20160107014958.GA1697@c720-r285885-amd64> <20160107114950.GA2808@c720-r285885-amd64> <20160107165507.0ce7e874@bsd64.grem.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Thu, 07 Jan 2016 14:37:29 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2016 19:37:30 -0000 On Thursday, January 07, 2016 04:55:07 PM Michael Gmelin wrote: > On Thu, 7 Jan 2016 12:49:50 +0100 > Matthias Apitz wrote: >=20 > > El d=EDa Thursday, January 07, 2016 a las 03:04:24AM +0100, Michael= > > Gmelin escribi=F3: > >=20 > > > > wlans_ath0=3D"wlan0" > > > > ifconfig_wlan0=3D"WPA DHCP" > > > >=20 > > > > (i.e. unchanged as they worked before); in dmesg the aht0 is > > > > shown as usual with: > > > > =20 > > >=20 > > > See > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-net/2015-August/04297= 6.html > > > and don't forget to run mergemaster to update rc scripts. =20 > >=20 > > A side question or remark on this: Why I do understand that certain= > > files (like: /etc/group, /etc/motd, ...) must be overwritten or > > merged or ignored with the files from the new installworld, I do no= t > > understand why the script files in /etc/rc.d or /etc are not just > > overwritten with the new files;=20 > >=20 > > these files are not meant to be changed by the system admin, they a= re > > just new software; >=20 > This shouldn't be a problem when using freebsd-update. While followin= g > CURRENT I find the idea of finding manual/local changes done by the > local admin/developer quite useful (it's a bit of a philosophical > question/my opinion). >=20 > "mergemaster -a" isn't the correct way to update (see mergemaster(8) > and /usr/src/UPDATING), either use "mergemaster -i" > or "mergemaster -iF" (I use the latter, as I don't usually don't mess= > with rc scripts myself). >=20 > Things might change if/once base is installed using pkg(8). etcupdate(8) uses a more automated process than mergemaster and will generally update unmodified files in /etc automatically without having to page through diffs, etc. --=20 John Baldwin