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Date:      Mon, 18 Nov 1996 10:13:17 -0600 (CST)
From:      Joe Greco <jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com>
To:        dennis@etinc.com (dennis)
Cc:        jgreco@brasil.moneng.mei.com, isp@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: changed to: Frac T3?
Message-ID:  <199611181613.KAA02381@brasil.moneng.mei.com>
In-Reply-To: <199611181601.LAA28913@etinc.com> from "dennis" at Nov 18, 96 11:01:07 am

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Hi Dennis,

> >I did, briefly, already.
> >
> >System: ASUS P/I-P55T2P4, P100 CPU, 16MB RAM, Znyx 314 quad DE21040
> >	ethernet, NE2000 ethernet.
> 
> Well...a verbal description of what you were doing was what I was looking
> for.....

Trying to melt down a production router.  (Not too sure that's too smart,
but oh well).

> flood pings are a pretty stinky test....the goal is to find out what it can
> switch on a 
> continuous basis without packet loss...you may be chugging along at 10,000pps
> and someone pings the machine and you drop a flurry of packets while the 
> ping is being processed, which is clearly unacceptable. its also a bit
> different with

I do not think a router routes a ping packet any differently than it
routes a TCP packet or a UDP packet.  In both cases, it comes in one
interface, gets routed, and goes out another interface.

ping -f just happens to be a convenient traffic generator.

My "udpblast" program is a little more optimized to the task simply
because it generates packets to the discard port.  That is how I got
around the collision problem inherent on a 10baseT network.  Actually
I wish the damn things ran in full duplex mode because the two
interfaces in question are both directly connected via crossover cables,
I should "never" get a collision on them to the machines that they connect
to  :-/

> lots of different addresses being looked up (rather than the same one with
> a ping).....its pretty difficult to test.

Sorry, I just don't have the test environment to do that.  There is a low
level of widely variant traffic, but it accounted for less than 10% of the
traffic (recall that I am doing this on production equipment).

Since I only have a T1 out to the big net, that sorta limits me a little.

> at 350
> 
> >> Anyone have a feel for the avg packet size over a typical backbone 
> >> link? A T3 with an avg packet size of 500 bytes is 21000pps full
> >> duplex...I suspect the ave packet size may be smaller with lots
> >> of dialup traffic.....
> >
> >I tend to see an average of about 350 bytes.
> 
> ok, thats about 28,000pps (allowing for overhead)...14,000 in
> one direction with a full pipe. 

So if I can do 10,000pps on a P100, possibly more... hmm..  :-)

... JG



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