From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 5 08:58:36 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D716416A4D0 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2004 08:58:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mizar.origin-it.net (mizar.origin-it.net [194.8.96.234]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3883F43D31 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2004 08:58:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from helge.oldach@atosorigin.com) Received: from matar.hbg.de.int.atosorigin.com (dehsfw3e.origin-it.net [194.8.96.68])i25GwV3v044591 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Mar 2004 17:58:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from helge.oldach@atosorigin.com) Received: from galaxy.hbg.de.ao-srv.com (galaxy.hbg.de.ao-srv.com [161.89.20.4])ESMTP id i25GwVFG061139; Fri, 5 Mar 2004 17:58:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from helge.oldach@atosorigin.com) Received: (from hmo@localhost) by galaxy.hbg.de.ao-srv.com (8.9.3p2/8.9.3/hmo30mar03) id RAA12399; Fri, 5 Mar 2004 17:58:26 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200403051658.RAA12399@galaxy.hbg.de.ao-srv.com> In-Reply-To: <20040305164548.GD35653@cnd.mcgill.ca> from Mathew Kanner at "Mar 5, 2004 5:45:48 pm" To: mat@cnd.mcgill.ca (Mathew Kanner) Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 17:58:26 +0100 (MET) From: Helge Oldach X-Address: Atos Origin GmbH, Friesenstraße 13, D-20097 Hamburg, Germany X-Phone: +49 40 7886 7464, Fax: +49 40 7886 9464, Mobile: +49 160 4782517 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: stable@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org cc: rwatson@freebsd.org cc: jorn@wcborstel.nl cc: rpratt1950@earthlink.net cc: mat@cnd.mcgill.ca Subject: Re: Standard sbc and pcm support in GENERIC kernel? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 16:58:37 -0000 Mathew Kanner: >On Mar 05, Helge Oldach wrote: >> Mathew Kanner: >> >On Mar 05, Helge Oldach wrote: >> case b) "options PNPBIOS" in the kernel config and "kldload snd_pcm" => >> pcm isn't recognized, but the other PnP devices show up during probe > > kldloading snd_pcm isn't enough. You need to load the driver >for your particular card (the module dependacies should load snd_pcm >for you). I think you are going to have to retry your tests. Bingo! kldload snd_ess does in fact also load snd_sbc and snd_pcm, and it all works. Apologies, I was mislead by the fact that in the kernel just has "options pcm" without any further fuzz. So yes: some machines require a kernel with PNPBIOS even when sound modules can be kldload'ed. I presume these are typically boxen without knob to disable the PnP BIOS. Still I wonder whether sound on -CURRENT will do on such a box... Thanks all for sharing! Helge