From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 20 01:56:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A998E16A400; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 01:56:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ganbold@micom.mng.net) Received: from publicd.ub.mng.net (publicd.ub.mng.net [202.179.0.88]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E96D813C469; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 01:56:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ganbold@micom.mng.net) Received: from [202.179.0.164] (helo=[192.168.0.18]) by publicd.ub.mng.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1HeiLs-000HQZ-Pu; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 10:55:57 +0900 Message-ID: <46281DAC.7090508@micom.mng.net> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 09:55:56 +0800 From: Ganbold User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (X11/20060612) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Nottebrock References: <200704182205.52028.beni@brinckman.info> <200704191812.50545.lofi@freebsd.org> <200704192000.15405.groot@kde.org> <200704200105.22646.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <200704200105.22646.michaelnottebrock@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: stable@freebsd.org, kde@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, Adriaan de Groot , Robert Marella , Beni Subject: Re: [kde-freebsd] problem hal - k3b ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 01:56:01 -0000 Michael Nottebrock wrote: > I forwarded my mail to gnome@ (the HAL maintainers) after sending it and Joe > Marcus Clarke from gnome@ had this to say on the issue: > > --- snip > > This should have been fixed a while ago by jylefort when he set the > default device for ATAPI access to be the ATAPICAM device (as opposed to > the ATA device). Assuming you have not undone that change, and are > running the latest version of HAL, these panics should not be occurring. > > Even still, you're right that these are not HAL bugs, but rather an > issue in the kernel. I use nautilus-cd-burner to burn CDs in GNOME, and > I have never had such a panic on 6-STABLE. n-c-b uses cdrecord, cdrao, > and dvd-utils under the covers to do the actual device work. Not sure > what k3b is using, but maybe it diddles something it shouldn't. > > Joe > > --- snip > > Beni, Robert, Ganbold, are you all in fact running the latest version of the > hal port and do you all have atapicam enabled in your kernel? If not, making > sure of both might help avoiding the problem. > I see. I know I have updated my system last Saturday (14th April 2007) and I think I updated both hal and kdelibs ports. I have atapicam enabled in kernel. Let me double check it this weekend and I will let you know. thanks, Ganbold > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: > Re: Fwd: Re: [kde-freebsd] problem hal - k3b ? > From: > Joe Marcus Clarke > Date: > Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:49:26 -0400 > To: > Michael Nottebrock > > To: > Michael Nottebrock > CC: > gnome@freebsd.org > > > Michael Nottebrock wrote: > >> I forgot to cc gnome@ on my reply. I don't think this is a HAL bug, but just >> FYI. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Subject: >> Re: [kde-freebsd] problem hal - k3b ? >> From: >> Michael Nottebrock >> Date: >> Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:12:46 +0200 >> To: >> kde@freebsd.org >> >> To: >> kde@freebsd.org >> CC: >> Beni , h.eichmann@gmx.de, current@freebsd.org, >> stable@freebsd.org >> >> >> On Wednesday, 18. April 2007, Beni wrote: >> >>> Hi List, >>> >>> I think I have a problem with hal(d) and k3b (version 1.0 from ports) : my >>> whole system freezes when starting up k3b. I get the splash screen and then >>> it all stops and a ctrl-alt-del is the only way out. >>> >> Other people have reported kernel panics. It looks to me like k3b's device >> probing and hald's device probing at the same time manages to tickle a bug in >> ata(4). >> >> Ref: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2007-April/070753.html >> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2007-April/034486.html >> >> I'm afraid a true kernel hacker will have to inconvenince themselves with >> running k3b and hal in order to have this one fixed. FWIW, I haven't seen in >> happening on 5.5. >> > > This should have been fixed a while ago by jylefort when he set the > default device for ATAPI access to be the ATAPICAM device (as opposed to > the ATA device). Assuming you have not undone that change, and are > running the latest version of HAL, these panics should not be occurring. > > Even still, you're right that these are not HAL bugs, but rather an > issue in the kernel. I use nautilus-cd-burner to burn CDs in GNOME, and > I have never had such a panic on 6-STABLE. n-c-b uses cdrecord, cdrao, > and dvd-utils under the covers to do the actual device work. Not sure > what k3b is using, but maybe it diddles something it shouldn't. > > Joe > >