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Date:      Sat, 20 Jan 2007 21:02:53 -0800
From:      Michael <bsdquestions@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Mail etiquette
Message-ID:  <45B2F3FD.4000705@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <45B2F25A.4030302@gmail.com>
References:  <04E232FDCD9FBE43857F7066CAD3C0F1267327@svmailmel.bytecraft.internal>	<20070118231254.GA5405@wantadilla.lemis.com>	<39ed86f90701181524x3c21c9f7sce09907f72a3f9c1@mail.gmail.com> <45B2F25A.4030302@gmail.com>

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Michael wrote:
> Greg Albrecht wrote:
>> On 18/01/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey <grog@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>> > Top-posting defined simply ...
>>> >
>>> > A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
>>> > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
>>> > A: Top-posting.
>>> > Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
>>>
>>> > Unfortunately all Micro$lop 'standard' email clients and a few
>>> > others put the cursor at the top of the email, so the bad habit has
>>> > developed across the world both domestically and in businesses, to
>>> > write there, rather than continuing the email thread at the bottom.
>>>
>>> "Top posting" is only one issue.  Others of great importance are
>>> trimming your posts, not breaking the lines into tiny fragments, and
>>> not writing one-line paragraphs.  Your .sig is a good example of
>>> things that people should remove from replies.
>>
>> i've been wanting to chime in on this. perhaps it should be taken into
>> consideration that a good number of MODERN email clients support
>> automatic threading of messages. this allows me to see each reply to a
>> message after the original message, in succession. i understand that
>> different people configure and use their email clients in different
>> ways, but why is there such a pandering towards one versus the other.
>> my email software  (gmail right now but has been mutt and thunderbird
>> in the past) makes it really easy for me to get the context of a
>> message as soon as it arrives. perhaps it's time for the rest of the
>> world to step up and add auto-threading to their mta's?
>>
>> just my $0.02.
>>
>> -g
>>
>> ps: there's no need to reiterate how 'hard' it is for you to have to
>> 'scroll down' to read the original message in a reply, how is that any
>> different than me having to scroll down to read your reply?
>>
> I couldn't agree more Greg A.
>
> I think it is time for most mta's step up and standardize a bit, but I 
> also think people complain a little to much about top/bottom posting 
> issue.
> Personally if the email app I'm using decides to place my cursor at 
> the bottom/top, then that's where I start typing.  The order in which 
> a conversation takes place, rarely has little to do with the content 
> of the thread.
>
> No offense to the 'groggy' one..... just my 2 cents is all.
>
> BTW, 'groggy' one, I love your books bro!
>
> Take care all,
>
> Michael
>
Speaking of etiquette, sorry about the 'reply all' on my last post.  
Pretty pathetic considering the subject matter. LOL!

Cya,

Michael




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