From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 27 23:33:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A899541E for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 23:33:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.unitedinsong.com.au (mail.unitedinsong.com.au [150.101.178.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C0452526 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 23:33:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from laptop3.herveybayaustralia.com.au (laptop3.herveybayaustralia.com.au [192.168.0.185]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.unitedinsong.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B4FC02737B; Mon, 28 Jul 2014 09:33:35 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <53D58C4E.8020402@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 09:33:34 +1000 From: Da Rock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Warren Block Subject: Re: Xorg, Radeon and KMS problems References: <53D39B39.9010407@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20140726141107.GA1382@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53D4D549.2040505@herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20140727120918.GA74913@slackbox.erewhon.home> <53D4F46A.7010206@herveybayaustralia.com.au> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 23:33:39 -0000 On 07/28/14 05:17, Warren Block wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jul 2014, Da Rock wrote: > >>> Setting "AutoAddDevices" to "off" is probably sufficient. And you only >>> need to rebuild xorg-server AFAIK. >> I'll give the conf option a shot. Takes a little while on my system >> to build, and its building some big stuff atm like thunderbird and >> libreoffice, so next day is latest I'd get it going. > > It is not even necessary to rebuild xorg-server. Just setting > "AutoAddDevices" "Off" prevents it from using HAL. Rebuilding it with > the port options set to not use HAL removes that dependency. If you > use xfce, HAL can be removed entirely. KDE and Gnome still depend on > it, even when xorg-server does not. I see. Trying that now... What about lxde? Seems to be the lightest, most user friendly; and I have rather illiterate users here. > >>> Check if it is possible to disable one of the graphics chips in the >>> BIOS. >>> That could be a last resort fix. AFAIK Xorg doen not have proper >>> support for >>> using two graphics cards or switching beteen them. >> Not that I'm aware of - HP take away a lot of fine tweaking options >> in bios for some stupid reason, and I went looking last time I was >> playing with the dual card setup and HD. I'll have another peek though. >> >> Who's looking at the support for multiple cards in Xorg then? Is >> there a wiki/blog or such I can follow, help out with? > > It might work. Fewer people use it now, since even low-end graphics > cards have two or three outputs. This is something I've been meaning > to test, and I have one or two machines available for that. I'll > report back. I have plenty - multiple outputs, multiple cards with multiple outputs, multiple cards sharing multiple outputs. Give me a test, and I can run it with the results you want returned.