From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Oct 4 11: 4:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mobil.surnet.ru (mobil.surnet.ru [195.54.2.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044E315587 for ; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:04:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ilia@cgilh.chel.su) Received: (from uucgilh@localhost) by mobil.surnet.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with UUCP id WAA12343; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 22:54:24 +0500 (UST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cgilh.chel.su (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id XAA00782; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 23:05:06 +0600 Received: from localhost (ilia@localhost) by localhost.cgu.chel.su (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA00764; Mon, 4 Oct 1999 22:59:03 +0600 (ESS) (envelope-from ilia@cgilh.chel.su) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.cgu.chel.su: ilia owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 22:59:01 +0600 (ESS) From: Ilia Chipitsine X-Sender: ilia@localhost.cgu.chel.su To: Kent Stewart Cc: Marc Schneiders , Oleg Ogurok , Greg Lehey , Kenneth Wayne Culver , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.0 release In-Reply-To: <37F7C1F8.4A3BDD1F@3-cities.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sun, 3 Oct 1999, Kent Stewart wrote: > > > > Anyway, there are 386 PC's which simply can't store more RAM or which > > have 4 * 1 MB and would need 4 * 4 MB, costing $ 50 (in my country). It > > would be nice if these old PC's were usable, esp. for people to try > > FreeBSD. You cannot, of course, sacrifice anything useful for that reason. > > It would be nice though, if possible. > > The problem is the response of such a system. They could think FreeBSD > is terrible and it is really their lack of RAM. If you advertise such > a system, you also have to warn about the possible lack of > performance. I have a spare system, which is exactly Intel 386DX-33 (overclocked to 40MHz) with 4Mb of RAM. I'd happy to built a system which will work 24-hours only as E-mail/new/FIDO gateway. Perfomance _is_ acceptable. I have a 28.8K modem for dialing out. My experience proves that 386DX-40 can handle 4 x 115200 NUL-modems + 10Mb Ethernet (well, it was Linux RH-5.0 boxen running as IPX <-> IP <-> IPX gateway). I think that my 386 boxen will stay without any use ... Anybody knows, is it possible to install NetBSD/OpenBSD on 4Mb of RAM ?! I sort of dissapointed ... I thought that microkernel concept (isn't it the same as "possibility to load almost any driver on demand" ?) doesn't require much memory. Anyway, thanks to all your responses, You did a great job working on FreeBSD project. > > Kent Regards, Ilia Chipitsine -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBN/jc1+RxlWKN2EXhAQFgdgL+KfKzZi9wYHAX/X6BTsUL6pbnUfdX+H3i KmxZ+fvGYWkFofl+0Npvf30+BG3z/fUq63qtmZwrJNBNrPvVNrcpZJrL6z7W5DV3 1XWLqlfuNPI5aMI1984CgmDIegPDnI38 =2LWz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message