From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 26 17:20:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB8061000; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 17:20:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pa0-x22b.google.com (mail-pa0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91BF0F93; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 17:20:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id eu11so12908130pac.2; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 09:20:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:subject:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=+qVquOWD/aUdHpUsiOh8HC8gpJUVcplkMk3ZAi5ZURo=; b=ttcR9Wl5MS7T19dATQP3NMnf7QtwUvl/YZ7GkXGafHPG0UePht/+MdErSPCi0PuqX+ tbIRyL6hPaaGI5G2IcorMqpyIJAlRmpgxkTAw2h/JToGlyjb1WG7QuqtcHiGpAdYnf7L CwLyk9roiEkwnaKMYRoTg8fBctwciM92WXkU41lR6f4UUaCEjUvZYu0chiGPUcVgcl0y zxaZFpAHu2hv1hJrHSaAHPBe4S9OcWwVc0fklPy3P+aIjaUrROtxxy70iiEyDg5K3b5W UKzi/O5tH4/iRbPw+E4fkEMP2wzmyRgQp9Bk8hS95bbd1+egHjsDMVIgRHR8Q3t6LMAK 0X5g== X-Received: by 10.68.136.228 with SMTP id qd4mr35851839pbb.122.1422292802149; Mon, 26 Jan 2015 09:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.100] (c-76-21-10-192.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [76.21.10.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id zr4sm10257018pbb.18.2015.01.26.09.20.01 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 26 Jan 2015 09:20:01 -0800 (PST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Google-Original-From: Alfred Perlstein Subject: Re: svn commit: r277694 - head/sys/amd64/conf Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 09:23:53 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4C1D4A44-0FB8-4EFA-9C18-2F7542C4C5D2@gmail.com> References: <201501251202.t0PC2crJ029665@svn.freebsd.org> <6366BFE6-1A9F-433C-99F5-65B9D905AEF5@gmail.com> To: Warner Losh X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Cc: "src-committers@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , Sergey Kandaurov , Garrett Cooper , "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 17:20:03 -0000 Never mind, apologies, thought this was i386+amd64. I'm going to guess = anything emulating amd64 has pci NICs in it. :) On Jan 26, 2015, at 9:21 AM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > Don't have a strong opinion on this because I'm not in the know = lately, but was wondering: >=20 > 1) if we wanted to keep NE1000/2000 support for FreeBSD in emulators? = Probably not I assume? > 2) Does Linux nuke these devices? why/why-not? >=20 >=20 > On Jan 25, 2015, at 9:58 AM, Warner Losh wrote: >=20 >>=20 >>> On Jan 25, 2015, at 7:54 AM, Garrett Cooper = wrote: >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On Jan 25, 2015, at 04:43, Sergey Kandaurov = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> On 25 January 2015 at 15:02, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav = wrote: >>>>> Author: des >>>>> Date: Sun Jan 25 12:02:38 2015 >>>>> New Revision: 277694 >>>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/277694 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Log: >>>>> Remove ISA NICs. Anyone still using these on amd64 can build = their >>>>> own kernel. >>>>>=20 >>>>> Modified: >>>>> head/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC >>>>=20 >>>> If so, what about i386? (I'd rather not pc98) >>>> What about device isa in DEFAULTS? >>>=20 >>> isa is still needed in some scenarios. I just don't remember the = full details offhand (something about internal buses iirc... And IPMI = for starters...) >>=20 >> "isa=94 in this context should be read as =93mainbus=94 not as =93ISA = slots=94. You can=92t >> remove it without some significant work, and even then the interface = changes >> to long established interfaces isn=92t worth the pain. >>=20 >> Warner >>=20 >>=20 >=20