From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Aug 23 09:44:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id JAA09337 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA09313 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA19087; Fri, 23 Aug 1996 19:14:13 +0300 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 19:14:12 +0300 (EET DST) From: Narvi To: didier@omnix.fr.org cc: Nate Williams , Warner Losh , Chuck Robey , hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: JDK 1.02 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 23 Aug 1996 didier@omnix.fr.org wrote: > On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Nate Williams wrote: > > > Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 17:54:11 -0600 (MDT) > > From: Nate Williams > > To: Warner Losh > > Cc: Chuck Robey , didier@omnix.fr.org, > > hackers@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: JDK 1.02 > > > > > > And given Sun's recent 'attitude' regarding Java, there is *very* little > > chance of one happening. Sun is getting very propriatary (sp?) about > > Java, and the Linux developers were forced to remove their port of the > > JDK from ftp sites after being 'contacted' by Sun's lawyers. > > > > I dont like sun's attitude but I think that's impossible to ignore java. > there are probably many possibilities but I'm not sure of the right one > > there are several questions > > - is kaffe able to totally replace the native java ? > (I heard many horrible about kaffe) Not yet. It also lacks many features (graphics support) > > - is it possible to write a x86 solaris emulator for FreeBSD ? Yes (the trouble is writing it). It would be nice even if not for Java. The other possibility is win32 emulator :-) > > - are there any possibilities to only distributes the patch to the original > source file for java (with no line of the original sdk file in the diffs) > Not an easy one - everyone will have to fetch the source and get a source licence. And - the patch files diff generates actually do include lines of the original text of the files... Sander > > > > Sun is no longer 'open' about Java now that they've got enough mindshare > > to keep momentum going. It's a pretty cheap way of doing business by > > first promising openness and then renigging on it, but it's only too > > common in business nowadays. > > > > > > Nate > > > > > -- > Didier Derny | My computer is Microsoft Free... > didier@omnix.fr.org | FreeBSD 2.1-STABLE site > > > >