From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jul 24 0:38: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA9737B400 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 00:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chen.org.nz (chen.org.nz [210.54.19.51]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A4D43E42 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 00:37:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonc@chen.org.nz) Received: from grimoire.chen.org.nz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chen.org.nz (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g6O7biUd050554; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:37:44 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc@grimoire.chen.org.nz) Received: (from jonc@localhost) by grimoire.chen.org.nz (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g6O7biSm050553; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:37:44 +1200 (NZST) (envelope-from jonc) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:37:44 +1200 From: Jonathan Chen To: Jamie Bowden Cc: Barney Wolff , "Brian T. Schellenberger" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make world considered harmful Message-ID: <20020724073743.GB50488@grimoire.chen.org.nz> References: <20020722205906.GA31883@tp.databus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 03:49:04AM -0700, Jamie Bowden wrote: > On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Barney Wolff wrote: > > :But there's nothing right with it, either. Is the demonstrated risk > :of people using it inappropriately really worth not having to type > : make buildworld && make installworld > :in the few cases where it's safe? I claim not. > : > :I run cvsup nohup'd and look at the output, but I'd would never trust > :that I'd notice a kernel interface change, and know when I could get > :away with not building the kernel. > > # > # $FreeBSD: src/Makefile,v 1.234.2.14 2002/07/16 18:36:19 ru Exp $ > # > # The user-driven targets are: > # > # buildworld - Rebuild *everything*, including glue to help do > # upgrades. > # installworld - Install everything built by "buildworld". > # world - buildworld + installworld. > > Perhaps I'm missing something, but 'make world' appears to do nothing more > than you've done above in fewer keystrokes. Except for the fact that if the new kernel doesn't like your system, you're SOL with out-of-sync userland. -- Jonathan Chen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "Nyuck, nyuck, nyuck" - Curly To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message