From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 26 23:02:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FEC5106567F for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:02:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kip.macy@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.180]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD67613C500 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:02:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kip.macy@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k17so2710410waf.3 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:02:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=7o9DawIei0EgPWaxX25eESI0Vmsk+s+UzYYGv7dzDjU=; b=PriaS+oiyUppOqPliQI9yzk9OOXty9+I2GFpfPN6kT5hnK4ttWpmGqzNtZRK+0cPYXh28KL/7d8gCegMSYVDSiJ2zuE7rRuYh9q/kLUgAQYY4bXaIJl3h++gtGIE+mFMYLGtWrX901O/IBErhpWJ9YqJNl8B1KttOx40NEtNDl4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=wnfnKbZ/vGhuLMIOMucCHHxiLH4W3AX6juGJsjOtHE/IGY4T5F1ORwBJcfKgTc68EmKsJEMQudgGKoX95WN+SaqL4opSF/D/YM+4/uQblOXhyuGl9cNwkYNeS6yZw4qmdSyr97W4uZ4CbrQ2mdbAFKD7BYZYIQz/wfeO30Sxd5M= Received: by 10.115.90.1 with SMTP id s1mr6303878wal.50.1204066966347; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:02:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.255.16 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:02:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:02:46 -0800 From: "Kip Macy" To: "Julian Elischer" In-Reply-To: <47C494B5.2040306@elischer.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47C39948.3080907@elischer.org> <20080226051346.GA65258@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <47C458E9.5090400@freebsd.org> <47C45CFE.9030006@elischer.org> <47C468AE.7060603@FreeBSD.org> <47C494B5.2040306@elischer.org> Cc: Brooks Davis , Andre Oppermann , FreeBSD Current , Marko Zec , Marko Zec , Marko Zec Subject: Re: warning of pending commit attempt. X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:02:47 -0000 On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: > > Julian Elischer wrote: > >> Andre Oppermann wrote: > >>> Brooks Davis wrote: > >>>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 08:44:56PM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> At some stage in the next few weeks I will be trying to commit > >>>>> Marco Zec's vimage code to -current. (only 'trying' not > >>>>> for technical reasons, but political). > >>> ... > >>>>> Why now? > >>>>> The code is in a shape where teh compiled out version of hte > >>>>> system is stable. In the compiled in version, it is functional > >>>>> enough to provide nearly all of what people want. It needs people > >>>>> with other interests to adapt it to their purposes and use it so > >>>>> that it can become a solid product for future releases. > >>>> > >>>> The website has a snapshot with a date over a month old and many > >>>> comments about unstable interfaces. I've seen zero reports of > >>>> substantial testing... > >>> > >>> What about locking and SMP scalability? Any new choke points? > >> > >> not that I've seen. > > > > That's a less than resounding endorsement :) > > do the 10Gb ethernet adapters have any major problems? > are you willing to answer "no"? > should we then rip them from the tree? > > I'm saying "this is work in progress" It seems stable and useful. > until we can get more than 6 people running it we won't know more. > Given how long it has been since RELENG_7 branched - if its really a no-op when disabled, I personally don't see it any issues with it. -Kip