From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 10 04:16:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18E1816A4CF; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 04:16:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ozlabs.org (ozlabs.org [203.10.76.45]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B34D143D49; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 04:16:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from blackwater.lemis.com (blackwater.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F432BDA6; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 14:16:37 +1000 (EST) Received: by blackwater.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58F1954341; Tue, 10 Aug 2004 13:46:34 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 13:46:34 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: John-Mark Gurney Message-ID: <20040810041634.GV44716@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200408041803.i74I3hW3032824@repoman.freebsd.org> <20040804200237.GA9720@dhcp50.pn.xcllnt.net> <20040804201627.GA991@funkthat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="E8vXRijW3SOTujIP" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040804201627.GA991@funkthat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org cc: Marcel Moolenaar Subject: Attitude problems? (was: cvs commit: src/tools/debugscripts README kgdb kld_deb.py) X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 04:16:41 -0000 --E8vXRijW3SOTujIP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday, 4 August 2004 at 13:16:27 -0700, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > Marcel Moolenaar wrote this message on Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 13:02 -0700: >>> add a set of scripts that I posted to -current last year. This makes > > [...] > >> They are mostly useless with gdb6, because support is already (partially) >> in kgdb(1) and what is not there yet is already planned. I don't mind >> that you commit these scripts, but the last sentence is crucial: it >> means that there's more unfinished stuff in the repository that needs >> attention to complete and thereby distracting attention away from where >> it's really needed. Your time would also be spent in a more focussed and >> constructive way if you would have add some of the features to kgdb(1). > > Umm.. I did all the work a year ago... I didn't "waste" my time as > you seem to imply since it only took three minutes or so to commit them.. > > I don't have a problem having them removed once support in kgdb(1) (8?), > has been completed... > > We probably spent more time typing these two messages than it took me > to commit the scripts... > > It was requested of me to commit these the other day when I mentioned > them to another committer (who I don't remeber right now). > >> If you want to help out, make sure you help doing things that need to >> be done. > > Make sure you don't discourage people from working to improve > FreeBSD. Indeed. Marcel, it would have been easy to tell John-Mark what kind of work *would* be useful. Although I suspect that what you're doing is excellent and a great improvement on what we have (certainly on my debug scripts), my interaction with you has left me wondering if I care any more. Greg -- Note: I discard all HTML mail unseen. Finger grog@FreeBSD.org for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. --E8vXRijW3SOTujIP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBGEwiIubykFB6QiMRAiwfAJ9GpkunAKuTLREKBe9IJT5EdcD3ZQCgpfUD TutN6dEUQWVIq7Fir52v9+4= =XSRX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --E8vXRijW3SOTujIP--