From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 15 09:45:47 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840A7106566C for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 09:45:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Received: from betty.computinginnovations.com (mail.computinginnovations.com [64.81.227.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E3DF8FC08 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 09:45:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from i7-quad-PC.computinginnovations.com (dhcp-10-20-30-142.computinginnovations.com [10.20.30.142]) (authenticated bits=0) by betty.computinginnovations.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p8F9XgpI098920; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 04:33:43 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from derek@computinginnovations.com) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.2.20110915043140.05a6bad8@mail.computinginnovations.com> X-Sender: derek@mail.computinginnovations.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 04:33:32 -0500 To: Doug Hardie , FreeBSD Mailing List From: Derek Ragona In-Reply-To: <5F905B11-01BE-4A01-BAF2-2FFB189F554A@lafn.org> References: <5F905B11-01BE-4A01-BAF2-2FFB189F554A@lafn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 110914-1, 09/14/2011), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: p8F9XgpI098920 X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ComputingInnovations-MailScanner-From: derek@computinginnovations.com X-Spam-Status: No Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Subject: Re: Hardware booting problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 09:45:47 -0000 At 03:34 AM 9/15/2011, Doug Hardie wrote: >I encountered a situation today that I do not understand. This is a very >old i386 PC that does not have a usable CD drive. The existing drive uses >a very funky SCSI connector that I have nothing for. The system disk is >SCSI and there was one additional PATA drive used for additional >storage. The PATA drive failed. It won't even stick around in /dev for >more than a couple minutes after boot and there are lots of messages about >bad sectors. The data is completely backed up and the that drive is over >5 years old. > >I removed the old drive and installed a new one. System will not >boot. It hangs in the BIOS. Never gets around to installing the SCSI >BIOS. My first guess was there was no boot sector on the SCSI >drive. That seems unusual since my other systems boot off the SCSI drives >just fine. This one used to also before I added the PATA drive. However, >if I put the dead drive back in along with the new one, then it >boots. This also implies that the boot sector was only on the PATA >drive. But the PATA drive is for all intents and purposes dead. So how >is it booting? Is there any way to look into the SCSI drive and see if >there is a boot sector there? > >This is more a curiosity item as there are additional failures starting to >occur in that computer. We are going to replace it. Its around 10 years old. Depending on your SCSI card BIOS, some allow you to set which LUN it boots. You may want to explore the SCSI settings, and try to set the new drive as the first boot device, then try removing the old drive. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.