From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sat May 4 01:50:39 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91FED15A1688 for ; Sat, 4 May 2019 01:50:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asomers@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lj1-f194.google.com (mail-lj1-f194.google.com [209.85.208.194]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91F636ACAA; Sat, 4 May 2019 01:50:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asomers@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lj1-f194.google.com with SMTP id z26so1882099ljj.2; Fri, 03 May 2019 18:50:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=BL5XG3ggFDCpKVQ+KQIwoRLtxAMI/EzK7LJBZI262P4=; b=DTADhJ8YdGJAa9eLY29kJ0RO256kmPyXZ8/vAuQgt9p3VwyiG6ixeoBHnzM8KzcpW3 +Ag/OdVSljTONlmrUmzWYMIz0Ml1dPsKN0TbcSl4IjoJ7Bh/XtvLSPPOZf2zuY1XYPNh XfqotCCaWaEB/naly+UnGAvAMVS6vSEXyZRb8puyz2/n9Ba7GuImWNl5SZ02lpgr4dZD 6ur2yr/NUUSVRIwhQDVSTNpEbpmCr3JbyxF0Ky0f3jL1nU9gzpx3EQS3ELZOuWT/PSZi CUJ2IFHCx5PU/fjhErP4SwFIVlRFGIiL5Ul0gxNfA/257IAz+QojqxyzB3cWmJlzUQ/k I2gA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXV07ZASS4HHBD5y3MlrIPo5rceQyJ99Jpo16k5HA5Ax0fPyt0y CDg01pEzk+Khf6l1D73avA2nF2MKYZU6tozFqVk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqy5sxKRqsRuGjjL/ha3UT7BAD6pUIDF0Qd0faPc5RuCnlzwWUNsquoiY0psF+TrFQGE72xDt63/ksBMjvPpAvY= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:6305:: with SMTP id x5mr6712905ljb.24.1556934279470; Fri, 03 May 2019 18:44:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190503171517.GE19873@FreeBSD.org> <201905031806.x43I6FXf093604@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> <20190504013934.GA26932@www.zefox.net> In-Reply-To: <20190504013934.GA26932@www.zefox.net> From: Alan Somers Date: Fri, 3 May 2019 19:44:27 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New vm-image size is much smaller than previos To: bob prohaska Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , Glen Barber , Enji Cooper , David Boyd , FreeBSD CURRENT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 91F636ACAA X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of asomers@gmail.com designates 209.85.208.194 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=asomers@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.11 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[6]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.87)[-0.874,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[194.208.85.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-1.23)[ipnet: 209.85.128.0/17(-3.84), asn: 15169(-2.25), country: US(-0.06)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[asomers@freebsd.org,asomers@gmail.com]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[194.208.85.209.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[asomers@freebsd.org,asomers@gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 May 2019 01:50:39 -0000 On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 7:40 PM bob prohaska wrote: > > On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 11:06:15AM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > -- Start of PGP signed section. > > > On Fri, May 03, 2019 at 10:12:58AM -0700, Enji Cooper wrote: > > > > > > > > > On May 3, 2019, at 9:57 AM, Alan Somers wrote: > > > > > > > > > > See r346959. Before first boot, you should expand the image up to > > > > > whatever size you want. growfs(8) will automatically expand the file > > > > > system. > > > > > -Alan > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 10:32 AM David Boyd wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> The vm-image for 13.0-CURRENT > > > > >> > > > > >> FreeBSD-13.0-CURRENT-amd64-20190503-r347033.vmdk > > > > >> > > > > >> is only 4.0 GB in size. Previous images were about 31.0 GB. > > > > >> > > > > >> This smaller image doesn't leave much room to add packages and other > > > > >> customizations. > > > > > > > > This probably deserves a release note. > > > > > > It will certainly be mentioned in the 11.3 release notes. > > > > And those running head snapshots without reading commit messages > > are likely to have lots of foot shooting. > > > > > Glen > > -- > > Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org > > At the risk of being branded a wishful thinker, a firstboot script that > asked the user for some configuration information would be a great help > to both new and experienced foot-shooters. I'm thinking of Raspberry Pi, > but perhaps it applies to non-embedded platforms also. > > The original FreeBSD install program (the one by Jordan Hubbard) did a > very serviceable job. Could it (the user interface) be resurrected? > > Thanks for reading, > > bob prohaska That wouldn't help in this case. The problem is that the image size (not the file system or partition size) needs to be expanded. That can only be done on the VM host. -Alan