From nobody Thu Mar 31 16:56:41 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A891A4ACC4 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2022 16:57:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soyeomul@doraji.xyz) Received: from yw-1204.doraji.xyz (yw-1204.doraji.xyz [185.17.255.72]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "yw-1204.doraji.xyz", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4KTqGN5MFwz4jm0 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2022 16:57:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soyeomul@doraji.xyz) Received: from penguin (unknown [223.39.139.26]) (Authenticated sender: soyeomul@yw-1204.doraji.xyz) by yw-1204.doraji.xyz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2EDBD8DB for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2022 16:56:49 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 yw-1204.doraji.xyz 2EDBD8DB DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=doraji.xyz; s=yw-1204-doraji-xyz; t=1648745812; bh=vSJ5zNnXgtfERmhPKK/3hpuV7V9/IhVglPto2eV4lZ0=; h=From:To:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=B4C5x/tgf2JVdwcKObV1ScoLuMhGmIonjSK1IHVQoEqZljUjiKS7blUwt8jq04P+N p4bnCi/dCEssaj1H32cqRrdC7hIk46KJKgeMIEuDR/4Ej77DhkUWTiwLzhEiPX343X xJ2vulKV0H3yH10WK7Q/PujFFl2X7Tv5i3yIR7514RrAUuVKB8B6a2wqa8qoKEOYJq 4KE0nXdDym+e2TbauLnQ8lefvUmh24agZ6KXOM17Wxe+F16q07OaaNw/MV1R/hydpd w+E+zPq2SQ0u0tU1yRSuhSsUClpMgwVzdtsSFx0IZF7Yu48p+l1KXNw9BDRdJEBtmz jTEXHxBfCgBRQ== Received: by penguin (sSMTP sendmail emulation, from userid 1000); Fri, 01 Apr 2022 01:56:41 +0900 From: =?utf-8?B?7Zmp67OR7Z2s?= To: Freebsd Questions Subject: Re: Why don't you eat your own dog food? Organization: =?utf-8?B?6YeR6Zm1ICjsl7Dsm5DsnZgg66eI7J2MKQ==?= References: <86ils43ez5.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> X-YW-Thanks-Thanks-Thanks: =?utf-8?B?KOuMgOyInCAxNTLrhYQpIOyynO2VmOywvQ==?= =?utf-8?B?7IOd7J2EIOuBneq5jOyngCDri6Qg7IK066as7Iuc66Ck64qUIOuniOydjC4u?= =?utf-8?B?Ll5eXjs=?= Mail-Followup-To: Freebsd Questions Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2022 01:56:41 +0900 In-Reply-To: <86ils43ez5.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> (Joseph Mingrone's message of "Wed, 23 Mar 2022 11:45:02 -0300") Message-ID: <87fsmyvz5i.fsf@penguin> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4KTqGN5MFwz4jm0 X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=doraji.xyz header.s=yw-1204-doraji-xyz header.b="B4C5x/tg"; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of soyeomul@doraji.xyz has no SPF policy when checking 185.17.255.72) smtp.mailfrom=soyeomul@doraji.xyz X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.02 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[doraji.xyz:s=yw-1204-doraji-xyz]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.84)[0.842]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[doraji.xyz]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[doraji.xyz:+]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.98)[0.981]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:31400, ipnet:185.17.255.0/24, country:DE]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[223.39.139.26:received] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Dear Joseph, Joseph Mingrone writes: > When we start meeting in person again, maybe you will have the > opportunity to attend a conference like BSDCan. If so, you will see > lots of FreeBSD developers presenting with FreeBSD laptops. Like Dave, > I also gave a presentation at a past BSDCan using a laptop running > FreeBSD. Really using FreeBSD as desktop/laptop is not easy, so you are good people for FreeBSD, i think. And let me please some question. May i ask to you what are using your laptop model? And the laptop is good with wifi under android mobile hot-spot? Because for years i'm connecting to INTERNET via the wifi hot-spot of android mobile (Model: LGM-V300S) ;;; > For video conferencing, there are challenges with closed > applications/sites like Google Meet, MS Teams, and Zoom. They do often > work well from a FreeBSD system, but that's not always the case. I have > had the best experiences with meet.jit.si. > > A positive development related to this discussion is that the Foundation > has identified the desktop/laptop experience as one the areas to be > targeted for improvement [1]. Some of the Foundation developers have > received frame.work laptops and are working to get FreeBSD running well > on those systems. We are also open to good proposals for funded work to > improve the FreeBSD laptop/desktop experience. > > I can't speak for everyone, but I would prefer to be able to use my > FreeBSD laptop for everything, but for some use cases, it's a work in > progress. > > Joe > > [1] https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/technology-roadmap/ Wow foundation homepage is more so fresh good than 10 years ago! Thanks! Sincerely, Chromebook user Byung-Hee from South Korea --=20 ^=EA=B3=A0=EB=A7=99=EC=8A=B5=EB=8B=88=EB=8B=A4 _=E5=92=8C=E5=90=88=E5=9C=98= =E7=B5=90_ =EA=B0=90=EC=82=AC=ED=95=A9=EB=8B=88=EB=8B=A4_^))//