From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 24 23:47:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695A316A41F for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 23:47:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jos@catnook.com) Received: from w250.z064001178.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net (209-204-181-78.dsl.static.sonic.net [209.204.181.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F32D043D53 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 23:47:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jos@catnook.com) Received: (qmail 48886 invoked by uid 1000); 24 Aug 2005 23:47:31 -0000 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 16:47:09 -0700 From: Jos Backus To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20050824234731.GB29650@lizzy.catnook.local> Mail-Followup-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org References: <200508241938.j7OJcSNW066686@repoman.freebsd.org> <200508241602.59424.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <20050824205627.GD755@garage.freebsd.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/pkill pkill.1 pkill.c X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: jos@catnook.com List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 23:47:13 -0000 Not to detract from the validity of this effort, but I think having some sort of process supervisor in the base system is a much better solution to the problem that pidfiles try to solve. A long time ago at a Usenix meeting (in 2002 iIrc) somebody (Doug White?) offered to review any patches I would submit to bring babysit[1] et al. into the tree. I wonder if that offer still stands... [1] See /usr/ports/sysutils/mktool. -- Jos Backus jos at catnook.com