From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 14 17:12:34 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969C516A417 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:12:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.26]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FACF13C448 for ; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:12:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from slackbox.xs4all.nl (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr6.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id lAEHCRJh055422; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:12:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.xs4all.nl (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 61EADB854; Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:12:27 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:12:27 +0100 From: Roland Smith To: Andrew Reilly Message-ID: <20071114171227.GA3047@slackbox.xs4all.nl> Mail-Followup-To: Andrew Reilly , Dmitry Morozovsky , Vivek Khera , FreeBSD Stable References: <69AF611A-3E27-49B9-A81F-033A94D796E4@khera.org> <20070928232008.K89977@woozle.rinet.ru> <20071114025903.GA72819@duncan.reilly.home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="17pEHd4RhPHOinZp" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071114025903.GA72819@duncan.reilly.home> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: Vivek Khera , FreeBSD Stable , Dmitry Morozovsky Subject: Re: Progress with usability of AMD64 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:12:34 -0000 --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 01:59:03PM +1100, Andrew Reilly wrote: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 11:24:41PM +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2007, Vivek Khera wrote: > > VK> My list of software is purely server stuff; I > > VK> don't use any FreeBSD desktops. > >=20 > > It seems to be the key point here. > >=20 > > I'm thinking about giving a try for the following scheme for my develop= ment=20 > > desktop at work: > >=20 > > amd64 machine with servers' ports built inside (postgresql-server, > > apache, etc) with i386 jail with desktop applications (xorg, > > firefox/nspluginwrappers, MUA, you name it...) > >=20 > > ENOTIME so far... >=20 > Utility is definitely a personal variable. I run a FreeBSD-6-stable > workstation at AMD64 and am more or less happy with it, My workstation runs amd64 7.0-BETA2. I'm very happy with it. > but I also have > a MacOS laptop, which I can fall back to for anything that falls out of > the FreeBSD-amd64 capability bucket, like watching the google > Android videos on youtube, There's youtube-dl in ports for downloading youtube videos. You can them watch them with your favorite media player. > Certainly xorg, firefox (and epiphany, which I prefer) and MUA > (thunderbird, evolution, mutt, claws-mail(my pref.)) all work > happily in amd64 mode. The only desktop related things that one hears a lot about are the Flash plugin, and the NVidia binary driver. For me those are things that I can happily live without. I certainly don't miss the annoying Flash ads on the Web! Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFHOyx7EnfvsMMhpyURAuRqAKCfky0r3ZIjlswZo0aQoIJoKhl/LgCeP+9N 7OdJCrRzYpM2iTSsXnrfjJY= =DJT3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp--