From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Feb 5 10:30:29 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA00266 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 10:30:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fang.cs.sunyit.edu (root@fang.cs.sunyit.edu [192.52.220.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA00255 for ; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 10:30:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from perlsta@cs.sunyit.edu) Received: from win95.local.sunyit.edu (A-T34.rh.sunyit.edu [150.156.210.241]) by fang.cs.sunyit.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA19304; Thu, 5 Feb 1998 14:31:46 GMT Message-ID: <005f01bd3263$6fb00680$0600a8c0@win95.local.sunyit.edu> From: "Alfred Perlstein" To: , Cc: Subject: Re: wd0s1e hard errors Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 13:25:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe hackers" please don't retire bad144, i try not to use disks that are dying, however someon just getting into freebsd might have a drive that has a small imperfection on it and would like to use that drive... -Alfred >: > Should bad144 be retired? >: >: Why, have you come up with a new "media perfection layer" which >: sits in Julian's new slice code under devfs to replace it so you >: can still use WD1007 ESDI controllers, MFM, RLL, and other drives >: that don't support automatic bad sector forwarding? > >No, but rather because (or so I hypothesize) these devices reside >overwhelmingly in systems which will never be upgraded to 3.x, and >because there is benefit to be gained from desupport, as recent >traffic regarding biosboot indicates. > >: Personally, I think if bad144 is retired, you might as well retire >: wd drives that don't have LBA modes like SCSI has. After all, "all >: modern devices" see drives as a linear array of sectors which never >: go bad, right? > >This is the persistent claim of the, presumed, cognoscenti whenever >anyone less informed makes an inquiry about how to deal with bad >sectors. > >