From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Nov 19 7:23:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8835E156AB for ; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 07:23:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.92 #3) id 11opsP-000P9F-00; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:23:05 +0000 Received: from localhost (jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA23748; Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:23:04 GMT (envelope-from jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 15:23:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Jonathon McKitrick To: Tom Embt Cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Microsoft service packs... (was many other threads...) In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19991119101303.01216df8@mail.embt.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My friend (MCSE) is on site right now.. NT is crashing left and right, with no indications why. He's swapping memory right now... Here's the scoop (as i see it): Unix excels at networking and efficiency. It tends to be a little weak in ease-of-use. Windows excels on the desktop because it shields users from complexity. But it wasn't designed from the ground up for networking, and that is its handicap. Shielding users is one thing, but sheilding admins from important info is a poor idea. All the layers in NT _seem_ to make it difficult to get an accurate picture of what is going wrong further down. On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Tom Embt wrote: >Perhaps one cannot mention NT without feeling an intense need to vent >frustration. > >As for Win2K, I crash it constantly, but I think it's mostly a "video >driver thing". > >Tom Embt -jm --------- He who laughs last... obviously didn't get the joke. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message