From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 9 15:03:01 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5BF0106568B for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:03:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from svein-listmail@stillbilde.net) Received: from mail.stillbilde.net (unknown [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:20c:29ff:fece:79f3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324DE8FC1A for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 15:03:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:3944:6121:5245:7458] (unknown [IPv6:2002:51af:3dc3:0:3944:6121:5245:7458]) (Authenticated sender: svein-listmail) by mail.stillbilde.net (Familien Skogens mail) with ESMTPSA id 9BDDB22 for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 16:03:04 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B717923.7050805@stillbilde.net> Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:02:59 +0100 From: "Svein Skogen (Listmail Account)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <4B6F9A8D.4050907@langille.org> <4B70FEEC.6070007@modulus.org> <20100209063310.GA23387@icarus.home.lan> <4B715AC6.5090500@denninger.net> <20100209134456.GA37029@icarus.home.lan> <4B717340.6080901@quip.cz> In-Reply-To: <4B717340.6080901@quip.cz> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.0.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: hardware for home use large storage X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:03:01 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09.02.2010 15:37, Miroslav Lachman wrote: *SNIP* > > I can't agree with the last statement about HP's iLO. I have addon card > in ML110 G5 (dedicated NIC), the card is "expensive" and bugs are > amazing. The management NIC freezes once a day (or more often) with > older firmware and must be restarted from inside the installed system by > IPMI command on "localhost". With newer firmware, the interface is > periodicaly restarded. The virtual media doesn't work at all. It is my > worst experience with remote management cards. > I believe that other HP servers with built-in card with different FW is > working better, this is just my experience. > > Next one is eLOM in Sun Fire X2100 (shared NIC using bge + ASF). ASF > works without problem, but virtual media works only if you are > connecting by IP address, not by domain name (from Windows machines) and > there is some issue with timeouts of virtual media / console. > I reported this + 8 different bugs of web management interface to Sun > more than year ago - none was fixed. > > Next place is for IBM 3650 + RSA II card (dedicated NIC). Expensive, > something works, somthing not. For example the card can't read CPU > temperature, so you will not recieve any alert in case of overheating. > (it was 2 years ago, maybe newer firmware is fixed) > > Then I have one Supermicro Twin server 6016TT-TF with built-in IPMI / > KVM with dedicated NIC port. I found one bug with fan rpm readings (half > the number compared to BIOS numbers) and one problem with FreeBSD 7.x > sysinstall (USB keyboard not working, but sysinstall from 8.x works > without problem). In installed FreeBSD system keyboard and virtual media > is working without problems. > > On the top is Dell R610 DRAC (dedicated NIC) - I didn't find any bugs > and there are a lot more features compared to concurrent products. > I think the general consensus here is "nice theory lousy implementation", and the added migraine of no such thing as a common standard. Maybe creating a common standard for this could be a nice GSOC project, to build a nice "remote console" based on SSH and arm/mips? p.s. I've seen the various proprietary remote console solutions. They didn't really impress me much, so I ended up using off-the-shelf components for building my servers. 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