From owner-freebsd-ppc Tue Jan 2 1:20:43 2001 From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 2 01:20:41 2001 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42D6D37B400 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 01:20:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (Ipitythefoolthattrustsident@trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA80464 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 01:20:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f029Kd631736 for freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 2 Jan 2001 01:20:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 01:20:39 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: the abi Message-ID: <20010102012039.A31690@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200101020121.UAA22022@mal-ach.watson.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200101020121.UAA22022@mal-ach.watson.ibm.com>; from dje@watson.ibm.com on Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 08:21:27PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: obrien@NUXI.com Sender: owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Jan 01, 2001 at 08:21:27PM -0500, David Edelsohn wrote: > FreeBSD/PowerPC is a great development platofmr for embedded > systems. That is exactly the point: it is the host, not the target. Actually I'm looking forward to the target. > One should be able to run eABI applications created by a > cross-compiler, Why use a cross-compiler when you can just use the native one? I'm not sure I'm going to put the ability to do either in the base system. > but using eABI will just subtly hurt the FreeBSD/PowerPC port because > of the stricter alignment requirements making the host OS run slower on > non-embedded PowerPC processors than necessary. This is true, but I'm not that concerned about the performance hit. > PowerPC-based Macs, IBM POP boards, and RS/6000 systems do not use > embedded PowerPC processors. The purpose of the PowerPC effort [at least mine] is not to complete with Darwin and run on Mac's, but to provide a platform for PowerPC embedded development. Those that push JKH and others hard for a PowerPC port want it for use in the embedded market. The G4 would just be the reference and development box -- but not the main use and target. I am not sure anyone will take the PowerPC port and polish it for desktop or server use. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ppc" in the body of the message