From owner-freebsd-bugs Fri Feb 9 14:42: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Received: from mailx.cue.net (unknown [64.162.107.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD42937B699 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 14:41:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by MAILX with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <1QPP2K8Q>; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 14:43:26 -0800 Message-ID: <25A4EF0A05A5D211AFE500A0C9932D743CC83D@MAILX> From: Paul A Scott To: 'Dag-Erling Smorgrav' , Paul A Scott Cc: 'Bill Fumerola' , freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: kern/24958: Fatal trap 12 in kernel mode (swapper) on Compaq Presario Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 14:43:25 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C092E9.B6CF0630" Sender: owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C092E9.B6CF0630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > It's *our* bug database. We reserve the right to close > any bug report which we don't consider useful. Fair enough, but not being able to boot beyond probing the parallel port on a current generation machine is a critical problem and I don't see how you can consider reporting the problem anything but useful. > Your bug reports were, as I already told you, barely > a step above "it doesn't work". You did not consult > the mailing lists nor the FAQ before submitting your > reports. I can add additional information at any time. It's a good bet I didn't read the FAQ about kernel traps; but hey, I was a little intimidated by the title, "For Serious FreeBSD Hackers Only," and figured it wasn't for me. I therefore never saw the preliminary steps, which I will now take. Beyond that, what makes you so certain in the context of the original problem report that I didn't check the mailing lists? There are two simple possibilities, 1) the solution is there already, and 2) you monitor the lists and haven't seen anything about this appear. So, you either know there's a solution or you know there's NOT a solution. Therefore, either enter the solution in the bug report and close it, or keep it open and wait for me to provide better information. Regardless of what you, et al, intend the gnats data base to accomplish, it remains a fact that it is a useful tool for others to search for problems and solutions. Ignoring that fact is counter-productive. Paul ------_=_NextPart_001_01C092E9.B6CF0630 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: kern/24958: Fatal trap 12 in kernel mode (swapper) on Compaq Presario

> It's *our* bug database. We reserve the right to close
> any bug report which we don't consider useful.

Fair enough, but not being able to boot beyond probing
the parallel port on a current generation machine is a
critical problem and I don't see how you can consider
reporting the problem anything but useful.

> Your bug reports were, as I already told you, barely
> a step above "it doesn't work". You did not consult
> the mailing lists nor the FAQ before submitting your
> reports.

I can add additional information at any time. It's a
good bet I didn't read the FAQ about kernel traps;
but hey, I was a little intimidated by the title,
"For Serious FreeBSD Hackers Only," and figured it
wasn't for me. I therefore never saw the preliminary
steps, which I will now take.

Beyond that, what makes you so certain in the context
of the original problem report that I didn't check the
mailing lists? There are two simple possibilities,
1) the solution is there already, and 2) you monitor
the lists and haven't seen anything about this appear.

So, you either know there's a solution or you know
there's NOT a solution. Therefore, either enter the
solution in the bug report and close it, or keep it
open and wait for me to provide better information.

Regardless of what you, et al, intend the gnats data
base to accomplish, it remains a fact that it is a
useful tool for others to search for problems and
solutions. Ignoring that fact is counter-productive.

Paul

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