From owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org Sun Nov 19 14:37:22 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43AEDF6D34 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2017 14:37:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from hz.grosbein.net (hz.grosbein.net [78.47.246.247]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "hz.grosbein.net", Issuer "hz.grosbein.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D2C17A637 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2017 14:37:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (root@eg.sd.rdtc.ru [62.231.161.221] (may be forged)) by hz.grosbein.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id vAJEbHaR082198 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:37:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) X-Envelope-From: eugen@grosbein.net X-Envelope-To: vas@mpeks.tomsk.su Received: from [10.58.0.4] ([10.58.0.4]) by eg.sd.rdtc.ru (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id vAJEbEOU044116 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sun, 19 Nov 2017 21:37:14 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Subject: Re: OpenVPN vs IPSec To: Victor Sudakov , "Muenz, Michael" References: <20171118165842.GA73810@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20171119120832.GA82727@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20171119143054.GC82727@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org From: Eugene Grosbein Message-ID: <5A119716.5020307@grosbein.net> Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 21:37:10 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20171119143054.GC82727@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, LOCAL_FROM, RDNS_NONE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Spam-Report: * -2.3 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] * 2.6 LOCAL_FROM From my domains * 1.9 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on hz.grosbein.net X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 14:37:22 -0000 19.11.2017 21:30, Victor Sudakov wrote: > I have a personal success story of establishing transport mode IPSec > between Windows and FreeBSD/racoon. But when other OSes are involved, > I have the impression that there is no pure IPSec, it's usually > IPSec+L2TP, and that's where the FreeBSD part becomes complicated > (interaction between ipsec, mpd5 and racoon is required). No interaction between mpd5 and racoon is required to make IPSec+L2TP working. In fact, mpd5 starts its part only when IKE/IPSEC part is already completed and runs its unencrypted L2TP protocol over existing IPSec tunnel without knowning it.