From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Jan 12 8:46:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3199114E28 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:46:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA42412; Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:45:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mwlucas) From: Michael Lucas Message-Id: <200001121645.LAA42412@blackhelicopters.org> Subject: Re: Possible idea to raise funds. In-Reply-To: from Pat Lynch at "Jan 12, 2000 11: 3: 9 am" To: lynch@bsd.unix.sh (Pat Lynch) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 11:45:58 -0500 (EST) Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, matt@BabCom.ORG, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > FreeBSD.org accounts are already sort of the "executive perk" of those > > who care enough about FreeBSD to volunteer their labor, either as > > docs, ports or src committers. Not to say that this alone has been > > their incentive, but hey, they're volunteers and there are so few > > tangible things one gets as a volunteer that each and every one counts > > for something. :) > > what about those who have given themselves self(sense)lessly in advocacy > efforts? > (hint hint) , when I was at the bazaar, it would have been nice to give a > freebsd.org address as a contact while I was manning the booth. On the other hand, it's nice to have people who aren't @freebsd.org promote it. We aren't just some fringe group all clustered around one domain. Perks for advocacy are pretty much non-existent. Having said that, if you do enough, well enough, publicly enough, people in the community will recognize you and your efforts. Personally, I don't think that advocacy is enough to warrant an @freebsd.org address. FreeBSD has taken me from a librarian sitting bored in a little box in a library basement making $18K, to a network engineer sitting bored in a little box in a skyscraper basement making $75K. I'm willing to give a little time in exchange for my house, nifty truck, and bad-ass saltwater aquarium with an urchin that resembles the Sputnik. Yes, I'd love an @freebsd.org address. Perhaps I'll get it one day. But I'm not a committer, I don't contribute actual zeroes and ones that make it onto CD-Roms. I could sit down, polish up my HTML skills, and contribute to the doc project, and get it, I'm sure. Anyone here could, if they wanted to. Personally, I make my own perks for advocacy; I write articles, and submit them to paying markets first. What's left I (plan to) rewrite and send to daemonnews. So far, I've been paid every time. Sorry, Chris. :) Through advocacy, we make friends we wouldn't have otherwise. We have a *community*. Thanks to freebsd, some cool hacker-type dudes across the world have some clue who I am, and consider me as someone with half a clue. > of course the fact that I have bsdunix.net made it not so bad. So whaddaya gripin' for? ;) (Although blackhelicopters.org isn't a bad name, either.) ==ml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message