Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 18:31:22 +0000 (GMT) From: Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com> To: brett@lariat.org (Brett Glass) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com (Terry Lambert), freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Here is what IBM thinks about using FreeBSD on their newer Message-ID: <200011291831.LAA19970@usr08.primenet.com> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20001129111306.0498bb60@localhost> from "Brett Glass" at Nov 29, 2000 11:15:45 AM
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> >There is a difference between tools dependencies and product > >dependencies. The InterJet is a closed box, and does not > >ship with a ful developement environment. > > What about the many GNU userland utilities -- e.g. grep? > Surely some of these are available for administration, > debugging, recovery, execution by scripts, etc. Or SAMBA, which we also shipped on the box? These were tactical, not strategic; shipping source for these wouldn't matter, since they don't contain any intellectual property that matters to anyone. Let people demand the code if they want: we include a web page with links to the source to everything they could demand, right on the box. FWIW, though: no. These utilities are not available for administration, recovery, or execution of scripts. They are available for debugging, but only to Whistle engineering people (or people who've left, like Archie, Julian, and me, who happen to know the magic incantations and the secret handshake). We all have FreeBSD systems or net access, so we already have source code to these bits. If you think these things would need to be exposed, then you've missed the concept of "embedded system": all InterJet administration was and is intended to be performed via a limited set of externalized interfaces, predominantly the web UI. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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