From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 6 07:18:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1897765B; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 07:18:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cell.glebius.int.ru (glebius.int.ru [81.19.69.10]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7092422D; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 07:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cell.glebius.int.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cell.glebius.int.ru (8.14.6/8.14.6) with ESMTP id r167I7s0032141; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 11:18:07 +0400 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from glebius@localhost) by cell.glebius.int.ru (8.14.6/8.14.6/Submit) id r167I7DQ032140; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 11:18:07 +0400 (MSK) (envelope-from glebius@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: cell.glebius.int.ru: glebius set sender to glebius@FreeBSD.org using -f Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 11:18:07 +0400 From: Gleb Smirnoff To: John Baldwin Subject: Re: svn commit: r246362 - head/games/fortune/datfiles Message-ID: <20130206071807.GN26896@FreeBSD.org> References: <201302051439.r15EdcE7011203@svn.freebsd.org> <201302051158.55117.jhb@freebsd.org> <20130205205547.GI26896@FreeBSD.org> <201302051617.25454.jhb@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201302051617.25454.jhb@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Benjamin Kaduk , svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, Dag-Erling SmXXrgrav X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 07:18:10 -0000 On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 04:17:25PM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: J> On Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:55:47 pm Gleb Smirnoff wrote: J> > On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 11:58:54AM -0500, John Baldwin wrote: J> > J> > > On Tuesday, February 05, 2013 9:39:38 am Dag-Erling SmXXrgrav wrote: J> > J> > > > Author: des J> > J> > > > Date: Tue Feb 5 14:39:37 2013 J> > J> > > > New Revision: 246362 J> > J> > > > URL: http://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/246362 J> > J> > > > J> > J> > > > Log: J> > J> > > > Remove political propaganda J> > J> > > > J> > J> > > > Modified: J> > J> > > > head/games/fortune/datfiles/fortunes-o.real J> > J> > > J> > J> > > *sigh* J> > J> > > J> > J> > > I'm sure there are other quotes that people who do not share your political J> > J> > > persuasion might find propaganda or offensive, etc. Censorship and freedom J> > J> > > of speech is quite a sticky widget, and I think the only truly sane policy J> > J> > > is that fortune files are append-only (unless we outright remove them and J> > J> > > that seems excessive). And new things should have a very high bar to be J> > J> > > added to fortune. Perhaps we should move fortunes-o to ports entirely? J> > J> > > J> > J> > J> > J> > I am more concerned about the insta-MFC than the removal per se. J> > J> > Only security or legal issues are cause to go under 3 days, was my J> > J> > impression. J> > J> J> > J> Yes, the insta-MFC is also not appropriate, esp. for something that you know J> > J> is going to raise eyebrows when it is committed. Having to debate this sort J> > J> of thing in public on mailing lists is also distinctly unhelpful and very J> > J> distracting from productive work. Also, I'd like to preemptively ask J> > J> developers to refrain from any further commits to the fortunes datfiles for J> > J> the time being as the last thing we need is a commit war over this sort of J> > J> thing. J> > J> > What about just moving the entire games subdirectory to ports repo? J> J> We've already moved most of it many years ago. The yesterday bikeshed proves that "most" isn't enough. :( The entire games subdir needs to be moved. -- Totus tuus, Glebius.