From owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org Sun Dec 10 17:52:09 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89369E92D60 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 17:52:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mozolevsky@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x230.google.com (mail-wm0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1062A79EFA for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 17:52:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mozolevsky@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x230.google.com with SMTP id f206so10350881wmf.5 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 09:52:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=s1CFzQZlX2CifUqapAZKrKXjyfyXVpSyfvepFRz6D7s=; b=C7rQst9/z2AVA/gZ46ExVrlSObnf7RspYMHILyBZovBAOtZMLsxPaNSQiNM2DqknFP JUZMYudfKQOZ6wC0p0qP7T4OobXIaVOnqGh3SiEvsYyLCo5QQmegU43hfnuGA9vYDFoD npt1koq3Ep0g+ljO6yxfYSuDE15jMKXQR1FpRzWQH8lr6oE2RNLM0BCqxEpezMRh4ckv 3cKa7jge4iw4LXwfO5AjcUN3u/u6w2Z8r48iCajjZQA6tmitWWVlXfm0qiFeN0Ia22mm ft7gcXYLtr8z8SYH8UwWfaGq46Z4nAYqg1+2172EJoO7xPIZvYq3NH06+rwmUw/4UWEo BMZQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=s1CFzQZlX2CifUqapAZKrKXjyfyXVpSyfvepFRz6D7s=; b=hVMPGVml54q1Ww7em3/7ddeWuyvzqvpL8A9B3GAAZsKcbAU33tPsOQdXkqWarvfqng sja7j5bgQ9sodpsnegO1NhKfou26GODQF5qAIiEcPex1wea9+P2exBOVsm6wF6RdWKL3 5Hgn+jGvGl+8WTymPGPAOtP2n8Lpqd+NKjqMegafEV6r8suKRrkFK9drlSAu8zVzikV5 O8WSp47AS2ZQGviaN6zb5QJTnEtrOWJA5NASPEsy8TVl+eHfQu1d8iFwHF13pPkbDyuT 5ezUKkIuXOQ+um0wTF586zWXyv0fbFnyAd/+FcUt8HTguE+yEfL380AMatg5Jl9c1We8 tAtw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mI8KZ6jqNe/dx/BqRBUUW+4q8oU4wNRp2y+gaZpdVuj7YBXytlm 9yIsRLo7zhUkEjEuENHJq1EBGxK/xzDD4WplJgM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMZkFSk48l+lCe0cqenqMvGfNeCef3aHyz+iZXGVUKS3iBhIqowMVlv/ej2jK7/p5G+kS8YoBzMmM2v20f8bBc8= X-Received: by 10.28.105.14 with SMTP id e14mr8151360wmc.74.1512928327572; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 09:52:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.90.193 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 09:51:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5c810101-9092-7665-d623-275c15d4612b@rawbw.com> References: <97f76231-dace-10c4-cab2-08e5e0d792b5@rawbw.com> <5A2709F6.8030106@grosbein.net> <11532fe7-024d-ba14-0daf-b97282265ec6@rawbw.com> <8788fb0d-4ee9-968a-1e33-e3bd84ffb892@heuristicsystems.com.au> <20171205220849.GH9701@gmail.com> <20171205231845.5028d01d@gumby.homeunix.com> <20171210173222.GF5901@funkthat.com> <5c810101-9092-7665-d623-275c15d4612b@rawbw.com> From: Igor Mozolevsky Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 17:51:26 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: http subversion URLs should be discontinued in favor of https URLs To: Yuri Cc: RW , freebsd security Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 17:52:09 -0000 On 10 December 2017 at 17:46, Yuri wrote: > On 12/10/17 09:39, Igor Mozolevsky wrote: > > There has been no instance of in-transit compromise reported since SVN was > introduced. > > Even when the back-end was compromised, there was not detectable compromise > of the codebase [1]. So even if the codebase was compromised, unless people**really knew** what they were doing, HTTPS would seed a false sense of > security. > > > This is another incarnation of the bogus argument: https also has some > vulnerabilities, so let's just stay with a completely insecure http until > some ideal solution will be found in the future. > Hypothetical MITM-bogeyman and "suits not knowing that I use FreeBSD" doesn't make SVN over HTTP insecure. -- Igor M.