From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 8 03:33:47 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D311065673; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 03:33:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from fallbackmx09.syd.optusnet.com.au (fallbackmx09.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACEAE8FC0C; Tue, 8 Jul 2008 03:33:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.194]) by fallbackmx09.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m6614EX9002634; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:04:14 +1000 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c122-106-215-175.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [122.106.215.175]) by mail13.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m6613uLX030140 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:04:03 +1000 Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m6613uDR080493; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:03:56 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m6613tmc080492; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:03:55 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:03:55 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: Craig Rodrigues Message-ID: <20080706010355.GD29380@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <200807041929.m64JTLxx060081@repoman.freebsd.org> <20080705081007.1dc30e3b@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <486FD18D.8000701@p6m7g8.com> <20080705200240.GA88828@crodrigues.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qcTtWMBd/uZDG7+Y" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20080705200240.GA88828@crodrigues.org> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) Cc: "Philip M. Gollucci" , cvs-ports@freebsd.org, Ion-Mihai Tetcu , cvs-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/devel/apr Makefile distinfo pkg-plist ports/devel/apr/files patch-apr-util_build_dbm.m4 patch-apr-util_configure patch-apr_hints.m4 X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:33:47 -0000 --qcTtWMBd/uZDG7+Y Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2008-Jul-05 20:02:40 +0000, Craig Rodrigues wro= te: >On Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 03:54:53PM -0400, Philip M. Gollucci wrote: >> The patch in the PR actually used Tools/scripts/bump_version.pl to bump= =20 >> all those ports, but it was for *some* reason not committed, > >I chose to err on the side of caution, and submit separate PR's to the >different port maintainers, since I don't like to blindly commit to >ports which I know nothing about. Except that when you change a shared library ABI or version, you need to bump all dependent ports at the same time. I accept that you (as committer) are accepting final responsibility for commits that you perform. This means ensuring that what you commit encompasses _all_ the changes needed - committing too little is just as bad as committing too much or an incorrect patch. >I hate it when people blindly commit to APR, so I don't want to do >the same thing to other ports. No-one is asking you to blindly commit anything. If you weren't sure about a PR then you should have discussed it with the originator and maybe with the maintainers of the other ports affected. >While you submit many good ports patches, I don't really trust your >track record. If you had an actual ports commit bit, then you >would have more credibility with me to submit mega-patches which >affect many ports. If someone who knows you better can sponsor >you for a commit bit, then you can take on more of this responsibility >for yourself, instead of dumping mega-patches for committers to pick up IMO, this is an unwarranted slur on Philip. There may be a variety of reasons why he does not have a commit bit and equating trustworthiness with a commit bit is demeaning to the large number of developers and ports maintainers who also don't have commit bits. --=20 Peter Jeremy Please excuse any delays as the result of my ISP's inability to implement an MTA that is either RFC2821-compliant or matches their claimed behaviour. --qcTtWMBd/uZDG7+Y Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhwGfsACgkQ/opHv/APuIdNYQCfbB3GE1CpCGtnubsEKKnhOFbR ZY4AoJM7/0Ihb6dDCnh95Gfxv0vc95UN =RGG4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qcTtWMBd/uZDG7+Y--