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Date:      Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:03:55 +1000
From:      Peter Jeremy <peterjeremy@optushome.com.au>
To:        Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@crodrigues.org>
Cc:        "Philip M. Gollucci" <pgollucci@p6m7g8.com>, cvs-ports@freebsd.org, Ion-Mihai Tetcu <itetcu@freebsd.org>, cvs-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/devel/apr Makefile distinfo pkg-plist ports/devel/apr/files patch-apr-util_build_dbm.m4 patch-apr-util_configure patch-apr_hints.m4
Message-ID:  <20080706010355.GD29380@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org>
In-Reply-To: <20080705200240.GA88828@crodrigues.org>
References:  <200807041929.m64JTLxx060081@repoman.freebsd.org> <20080705081007.1dc30e3b@it.buh.tecnik93.com> <486FD18D.8000701@p6m7g8.com> <20080705200240.GA88828@crodrigues.org>

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On 2008-Jul-05 20:02:40 +0000, Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@crodrigues.org> wro=
te:
>On Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 03:54:53PM -0400, Philip M. Gollucci wrote:
>> The patch in the PR actually used Tools/scripts/bump_version.pl to bump=
=20
>> all those ports, but it was for *some* reason not committed,
>
>I chose to err on the side of caution, and submit separate PR's to the
>different port maintainers, since I don't like to blindly commit to
>ports which I know nothing about.

Except that when you change a shared library ABI or version, you need
to bump all dependent ports at the same time.  I accept that you (as
committer) are accepting final responsibility for commits that you
perform.  This means ensuring that what you commit encompasses _all_
the changes needed - committing too little is just as bad as
committing too much or an incorrect patch.

>I hate it when people blindly commit to APR, so I don't want to do
>the same thing to other ports.

No-one is asking you to blindly commit anything.  If you weren't sure
about a PR then you should have discussed it with the originator and
maybe with the maintainers of the other ports affected.

>While you submit many good ports patches, I don't really trust your
>track record.  If you had an actual ports commit bit, then you
>would have more credibility with me to submit mega-patches which
>affect many ports.  If someone who knows you better can sponsor
>you for a commit bit, then you can take on more of this responsibility
>for yourself, instead of dumping mega-patches for committers to pick up

IMO, this is an unwarranted slur on Philip.  There may be a variety of
reasons why he does not have a commit bit and equating trustworthiness
with a commit bit is demeaning to the large number of developers and
ports maintainers who also don't have commit bits.

--=20
Peter Jeremy
Please excuse any delays as the result of my ISP's inability to implement
an MTA that is either RFC2821-compliant or matches their claimed behaviour.

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