From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 29 12:05:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49ECA16A4CE; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:05:28 +0000 (GMT) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (transport.cksoft.de [62.111.66.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9934C43D5D; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:05:09 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 909EA1FF9AD; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:05:07 +0100 (CET) Received: by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id 9E2841FF92F; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:05:05 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix, from userid 1060) id 1128315714; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:00:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.int.zabbadoz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1E915705; Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:00:36 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:00:35 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" X-X-Sender: bz@e0-0.zab2.int.zabbadoz.net To: Robert Watson In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS cksoft-s20020300-20031204bz on transport.cksoft.de cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: Scott Long cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/boot/i386/loader Makefile loader.rc X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 12:05:28 -0000 On Mon, 29 Nov 2004, Robert Watson wrote: > I thought that most of the objections I heard were to the Beastie, not the > menu, but perhaps I misunderstood... The only technical objection I've > had to the menu is that the clear screen it issues before rendering causes > some terminal emulators to loose some scroll back, suggesting we might > want to generate a CR, 25 LF's, then pick up with the menu to push the > console contents present previously outside the area cleared. I've seen also lots of ^H are quite annoying in serial console logs. > FWIW, I think the menu is a very good idea, as it provides users wth an > easy option to disable ACPI and try variations on hardware probing on > i386, which sadly, is highly necessary. Especially with the 2-4 year old what about changing the interactive menu to a simple print-out banner with some good advises for the most common options/settings needed: how to disable ACPI or set bootverbose in loader. I always liked the hints given in motd; so why not have some static texts ? -- Bjoern A. Zeeb bzeeb at Zabbadoz dot NeT