From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Dec 7 22: 6:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F95837B419 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:06:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (contactdish.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fB866Ix19188; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 07:06:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <015f01c17fae$74ebc4d0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "James Howard" , "Brad Knowles" Cc: "Konstantinos Konstantinidis" , References: <006c01c17f70$8782de50$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <00de01c17fa1$06539e10$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Subject: Re: A breath of fresh air.. Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 07:06:18 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brad writes: > > How do you get out of the GUI and back to a > > simple console? > > Pull up a shell window. How do you "pull up a shell window" if you have exited the GUI? > X is not necessarily a "standard", certainly > not one that you are required to implement. Really? So much for arguments in favor of UNIX based on X, eh? It's interesting how positions shift. > I know of plenty of Unix servers around the > world that don't implement any kind of GUI > at all. I'd expect that any UNIX system used as a server would not have a GUI, as it is just a waste of resources and a security and stability risk. > Moreover, downloading and installing X is not that > big of a deal. So why isn't the Mac OS X simply an X server? > What's running currently? I dunno, lemme pull up > a shell window and see: Lots of weird stuff. Weird stuff makes me nervous. > There's a lot of more unusual looking stuff here > (mostly Aqua applications), but there are also > some pretty familiar faces ... It's the unusual stuff that always worries me. > /sbin: > SystemStarter fsck_msdos mount_afp ... My guess is that a great deal hides behind SystemStarter. > Seems mostly standard to me. If anything, what > they've done here is largely add a few things > and maybe move a few things around. Kind of like Windows 3.x, no? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message