From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 19 16:48:35 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7FD3106564A for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:48:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gesbbb@yahoo.com) Received: from smtp107.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp107.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.46]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 43D678FC2C for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:48:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 19832 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2010 16:48:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Received:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Reply-To:Organization:X-Mailer:Face:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=4dAgtkYn5Td1YDlmQm1CK+iiffz6clv75pHTzua8WYO2+F1/o3BqxJxlo/HJUNN09Qi5vK3MSK2xHx7eKlsXBvCTF+55eF2KEe+wVk5j58zhq6soDpiBX8T+NgZj+ZNp6crOosp7e0jctEw2JUaZQgEu/9iImq1YOrwhWq5o67Y= ; Received: from c-67-189-160-65.hsd1.ny.comcast.net (gesbbb@67.189.160.65 with login) by smtp107.prem.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Mar 2010 09:48:34 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: yeAAMgKswBATCul4lSbCWspvTA-- X-YMail-OSG: oYFc3KkVM1lbsBkjuFif_RizrO4Q.BIWfzY9Bnvw9oRNejAbmko4cRcEijy2S.zbqV2IiAQfcpJ_jKIg43bXO63tlZqmdnldkDFCrACX0n7c7D9Hv3Zj0g0wg0SeJbLjOEJo8uGlACYuzvUYqCw1ZBMiTy5ZzSOlueLI2jVz.V9J61f8VdVA2jKB9qwALDTNCdq6MmQ_TmZPm.q61.tpZH1YEb3eB_TAFl1RJSfF1icWJi0_7A1.SXP_biEPVkO0NAwLydAtX0.MI4ImCbdakuscX57955P6zojAG1SqByKOJ9WLQe6ZgBZVYA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (scorpio.seibercom.net [192.168.1.101]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: gesbbb@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F26462283C for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:48:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:48:25 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100319124825.3530cf78@scorpio.seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: <4BA384AB.3010609@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> References: <4B9A4C65.4040606@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> <970380131003171157m104953fen9f99e82823f564b@mail.gmail.com> <201003180950.04627.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> <20100318062151.7791fdbc@scorpio.seibercom.net> <20100318113348.281f2de5@ernst.jennejohn.org> <970380131003180354n37bf379ej9b17aab91a1c130@mail.gmail.com> <19362.8135.173250.410907@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <970380131003180713v89c630cucbe506dbba19eb25@mail.gmail.com> <4BA2C4E0.1050805@FreeBSD.org> <20100319062247.7068afff@scorpio.seibercom.net> <19363.27281.684199.469796@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <4BA384AB.3010609@joseph-a-nagy-jr.us> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.3) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/EWVer5Y3/XF6RIwPCd+DwuV"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Subject: Re: Java For Firefox X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:48:35 -0000 --Sig_/EWVer5Y3/XF6RIwPCd+DwuV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:05:31 -0500 Programmer In Training articulated: >On 03/19/10 07:14, Robert Huff wrote: > >> and what I remember of the original post, which came across >> as: >>=20 >> "FreeBSD doesn't have X? Do you not realize how important X >> is? Bunch of losers. Fix it, or I'm outta here." >>=20 >> and - seen that way - drew a predictable and quite human >> reaction. Especially when the poster seems to be somewhat more >> clueful than someone who is trying FreeBSD becuase "My geek friends >> said I should use Linux.". > >Is that what I said? I don't recall saying anything of the sort. I do >recall asking for a time frame on when a Java update compatible with FF >3.6 would be available. > >I ask because I am the one who started this thread. > >I would be more then willing to donate cycles and space for testing and >bug reporting. That's going to be the extent of my contributions >because I am still getting the hang of tcsh (I'm used to bash, still >some things in tcsh that are different enough for me to get used to) >and of FreeBSD (I am new to using it also, having taken a multi-year >hiatus from any time of *Nix environment (previously Gentoo Linux)). Is there any reason that you don't simply install 'bash'? I use it as my shell and love it. >If any of that came across as what you are paraphrasing me (claiming to >be remembering the original post) as implying, than I really will >leave. It's a dirt-poor attitude to have toward your new users. I'm at >least making an effort to not be a n00b. Don't take it personal. Whether or not you are praised or ridiculed depends entirely on where you are seated. Saying Microsoft sucks because they don't have {Applet of your choice} and you will be praised. Complain that your OS of choice lacks a feature that is readily available on other OS's and you will be chastised. It just goes with the territory. At times it can get really hilarious. Remember, saying Microsoft, or any other operating system lacks a feature is insightful criticism; saying your OS lacks a feature is flame bait and counter productive. Once you remember that, the rest is easy. --=20 Jerry gesbbb@yahoo.com Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ POSITIVE: Being mistaken at the top of your voice. --Sig_/EWVer5Y3/XF6RIwPCd+DwuV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJLo6rhAAoJEGnxpuiKsj5SwzAH/1eEZiBRprmYibd7CjNVMyA5 jSQN3QJrRkDhyt64EqsqTKP+0wkFUysTGIlUzriNzaHb5UtFe3pOE0x5l1hOE7p3 +1SvP4iHzk0j428UGFEshhE3F8Je4l5PLHxzjf9sduUJiSm8ZNe+2pnWS4ymTkws GAFzibwwGxKZzwP5N/UbeU9ojX3Q5vdtLfos7dQ/IG37FWSWWHjkITtELZhSi8CF DTRUM0dewnalCp52S82X4mrRoiC5C4hXgmY11WYqMQWumKxa2ZyUnooUZKpEKfqH ZBMkP3aU/1b99wB9wnz8roWCBeuxKdK6pTPxCeFyAght61uqlWLd87IgeX/y8g0= =Z6G/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/EWVer5Y3/XF6RIwPCd+DwuV--