From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Thu Oct 4 00:54:24 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5753F10B30D5 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 00:54:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from smtp-out-so.shaw.ca (smtp-out-so.shaw.ca [64.59.136.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD3E777921 for ; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 00:54:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([70.67.125.17]) by shaw.ca with ESMTPA id 7ruHgJW7QwyxU7ruIg9zak; Wed, 03 Oct 2018 18:54:22 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=NPJhBHyg c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:117 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=smKx5t2vBNcA:10 a=UqCG9HQmAAAA:8 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=zx3pcVOHSrahllPZR38A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy [10.1.1.91]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21F19621; Wed, 3 Oct 2018 17:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w940sKTH015563; Wed, 3 Oct 2018 17:54:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from slippy (cy@localhost) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id w940sK3T015537; Wed, 3 Oct 2018 17:54:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Message-Id: <201810040054.w940sK3T015537@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Authentication-Warning: slippy.cwsent.com: cy owned process doing -bs X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.7.1 Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.cschubert.com/ To: Rick Macklem cc: Warner Losh , Cy Schubert , Jakub Lach , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers In-Reply-To: Message from Rick Macklem of "Thu, 04 Oct 2018 00:21:13 -0000." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2018 17:54:20 -0700 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfDHNlx38R3K7A5KgqraRFP5kdcmdR74k6Dx4zf31V0kMC1oUm7mAgmm7bnLgzNH++tbxfcnKf7cx5aV7lBsvrdgH+XwcY9k9Y9uURuB/pznE4h0FMw9b ghm0AE38J9H1PWO8s2bwJfH025PaGL7a0U1VaP8Mh5HuJW5uqRyp3zRMxpdRxU8ObOtIDijy64XQEIb+lrvRo2qJIPWsZZayZbMBux1NB0fsOSAdDttht8lC BCuL7Tq7JTRLUyNxfBnRsxftPDDc4BiOlT0horT8/L0= X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2018 00:54:24 -0000 In message , Rick Macklem writes: > Warner Losh wrote: > >Well, we're at 1 maybe 2 now. Only 3 more to go for a reprieve. :) You're > >running FreeBSD-current on that i386 laptop, right? > > > >Warner > > > >On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 6:01 PM Cy Schubert > >wrote: > > > >> I have a laptop (used for i386 testing) with that NIC. The plan is to move > >> rl(4) to ports until I no longer need to test i386 on real hardware. > >> > >> Will this help? > My main development machine has a bfe in it, so I will definitely be > keeping a driver for it going. I don't care if it goes away from head/current > . > (I can leave the driver somewhere for anyone else that wants it, although > I'm not a ports guy, so someone else would have to put it in ports.) > The other box I run FreeBSD on is an fxp, so I'll be doing the same for it, i > f/when it gets deleted. I find these machines work fine, but I don't do ZFS. > [stuff snipped] Ahh, the old laptop used for i386 testing has had ZFS on it since I got it. Initially with only 768 MB RAM. It was the the one talked about in the ZFS tuning wiki. It's got more RAM now, still with ZFS and no special ZFS tuning except to reduce bshift to 13 and reduce the vdev cache to 5 MB. It'll probably become a hand-me-down for the grandkids when I teach them programming. Junior committers, hopefully. I'm sure they'll want something newer shortly later. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.