From owner-freebsd-current Tue Aug 28 7:32: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from po3.wam.umd.edu (po3.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F6437B408 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 07:31:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac4.wam.umd.edu (IDENT:root@rac4.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.144]) by po3.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA19265; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:31:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac4.wam.umd.edu (IDENT:sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac4.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA13937; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:31:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac4.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13933; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:31:18 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac4.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 10:31:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: Sean Chittenden Cc: Jim Bryant , Poul-Henning Kamp , Julian Elischer , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Headsup! KSE Nay-sayers speak up! In-Reply-To: <20010827134902.A80313@rand.tgd.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > I have one system that I've been maintaining/updating since the > > > 2.X days and I feel it's time to nuke it and start over. +1 for a > > > non-smp system and SMP system. > > > > > > That said, I think the value of having both KSE and SMPng in 5.0 > > > is HUGE and I think there is probably a large number of people that > > > would be willing to endure kernel panics, dumps, etc. because the value > > > (in terms of technological accomplishment and saleability in the > > > corporate space) would be absolutely worth the bumpy road. -CURRENT > > > isn't worth tracking unless the dumps, bugs, etc are all going toward > > > both SMPng and KSE. > > > > > > Hey, anyone running -current without a tape drive attached with a daily dump schedule is either insane, a masochist, or both. > > > > Read my post from this morning about the mysterious filesystem corruption I had this morning... Kudos to Justin Gibbs for fixing > > EOM detection [let's get his scsi_sa.c patches committed ASAP]!!! > > Thanks for the heads up! Fortunately I have a few -STABLE > systems that I can dump to and that host all of my email/development. > ;) I'll probably go and pick up another 40+GB HD just for the extra > head-room. > > > > If there are grave concerns about having KSE and SMPng in 5.X, > > > then why not push back the release date? The value far outweighs the > > > extra months needed to get it finished and out the door, but what do I > > > know, I'm just a quiet kernel by standard making an observation. -sc > > > > > > Good idea. > > Seriously, is there any reason to hold to a time line at the > expense of some very important and very fundamental enhancements to > FreeBSD? I suppose that's something for -core to talk about/discuss, > but I bet that if a poll was put on the homepage of FreeBSD.org (hint > hint) asking about this, you'd get an overwhelming response to see > KSE/SMPng in 5.X. With a poll you might even pick up some more testers > given the exposure (hint hint). -sc > If it's testers you want, submit a story on slashdot heh heh, I know a lot of BSDers that are converts from linux that want to test stuff, but only read slashdot for their computer news. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message