From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Oct 28 8:24:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from void.xpert.com (xpert.com [199.203.132.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D15B37B405; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 08:24:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailserv.xpert.com ([199.203.132.135]) by void.xpert.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15xsib-0007Hu-00; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 18:23:25 +0200 Received: by mailserv.xpert.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <472JNLJM>; Sun, 28 Oct 2001 18:23:55 +0200 Message-ID: From: Yonatan Bokovza To: 'Brett Glass' , Yonatan Bokovza , 'Greg Lehey' Cc: Stephen McKay , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Course of law (was: Islam (was: Religions (was Re: helping vi ctims of terror))) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 18:23:51 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Brett Glass [mailto:brett@lariat.org] > Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2001 16:44 > To: Yonatan Bokovza; 'Greg Lehey' > Cc: Stephen McKay; chat@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: Course of law (was: Islam (was: Religions (was > Re: helping vi ctims of terror))) > > > At 03:30 AM 10/28/2001, Yonatan Bokovza wrote: > > >In the democracies *I'm* aware of there's something called "war". > >A good example of this will be when a one country shoots at > >other country's civilians. > > No. In war, one country shoots at another's SOLDIERS. In a civilized > world, it is considered an atrocity to attack civilians. Which is > what terrorists do. In 1991 there was a war called "The Gulf war". During this war the Iraqis launched ICBMs at Israeli civilians. I don't know if you call what's going on now in Afghanistan "a war", but civilians _are_ getting hit in this process. I understand what you say, my point is (which I seem to fail to pass to guys like Greg) there's a difference between "shoot" and "target". And the difference is that "Target" is the intention (kill terrorists, for example) and "Shoot" is more like, the result (kill civilians, for example). One difference between Terrorism and Military-operation, is that Terrorism sometimes "Targets", thus "Shoot", civilians. While Military-operation (in this day and age) "Targets" the enemy, civilians might get shot accidentally, but that's not the desired result. Was I clearer this time? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message