From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Aug 17 20:21:08 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0DE3BB61C for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 20:21:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from hz.grosbein.net (hz.grosbein.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:c2c:26d8::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "hz.grosbein.net", Issuer "hz.grosbein.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BVlmg4dn6z4Dd9 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2020 20:21:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (eg.sd.rdtc.ru [IPv6:2a03:3100:c:13:0:0:0:5]) by hz.grosbein.net (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 07HKKieb024946 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 17 Aug 2020 20:20:45 GMT (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) X-Envelope-From: eugen@grosbein.net X-Envelope-To: farhan@farhan.codes Received: from [10.58.0.10] (dadvw [10.58.0.10]) by eg.sd.rdtc.ru (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 07HKKqQm008085 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 18 Aug 2020 03:20:52 +0700 (+07) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Subject: Re: Recognizing Matrix as an official channel To: Farhan Khan , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <0220573d-7844-4c0f-9cff-56c2a6f91500@www.fastmail.com> From: Eugene Grosbein Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 03:20:45 +0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0220573d-7844-4c0f-9cff-56c2a6f91500@www.fastmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOCAL_FROM, NICE_REPLY_A,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Report: * -2.3 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] * -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record * 0.0 SPF_HELO_NONE SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record * 2.6 LOCAL_FROM From my domains * -1.0 NICE_REPLY_A Looks like a legit reply (A) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on hz.grosbein.net ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1597695668; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=qkV2rS2R1HUl2vSJuqMNK2/FNkFFEJFWEy9so/HhBL0=; b=nQdDZ9HQ6rfKPxzhIXi4CeKltq0gOA0cZxot+UTCuX2RukYHhvlpCarYfWw7WHDcjybVxG zoFGNkrkW0T7SC7ErPu2Nh9VZEtOAiHsV/39WnRfQOQR2zPhYPXT8bYF6TjdNRm9KViHI8 UFC05feBuqU7IXSBNdggP8V9tN8DdjjG8nYrWt8tPQ3IWzkAIheJ+N0g2ynGFl3WLz9iDu rc56vdx9LbwWYkTn0RvB5opuTlV/U5xqx13oBj4lI8Bw3K7myn0csJftfLr7qA8JO8z2ul 1gPnKUFrA2s08pr6COwkcD2oFspSnBvYn3eTwwwfGOYA1ziU7PEFLRKZNzHq/A== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1597695668; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=wGomWl+9h1PBegzQG+7t6VRmSVzsyQ4WLZZ13AAPdMR2oppRwDTxGRySN8r89ECsadsu8w 7JkdsLdbq87oCYsdY8GRhzu/zblME3FY5AHqrV5gLAitsclkDYaL3z+nyYKbvJP4YQLPe3 Ae5Er/ZzmWNHmGru3JBiclw5+gILuEQYSyblKL9FIbXKNzqcD+Z2TIqbL/ZLPPij0bNWZf JYncqMVRVpGTg3dZrSXmKFjtlYY9mmmUq1w9LSQYoSQ7VfVelwgIFui/HiB2na/rgOPYTD yVH498EgMvq+Dt6x0WFw1asoR+woylNMSeNCwogHem5NhwlBrLl32e+EBYdv+A== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=permerror (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of eugen@grosbein.net uses mechanism not recognized by this client) smtp.mailfrom=eugen@grosbein.net X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BVlmg4dn6z4Dd9 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=permerror (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of eugen@grosbein.net uses mechanism not recognized by this client) smtp.mailfrom=eugen@grosbein.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.60 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.69)[-0.693]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.80)[-0.797]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ARC_SIGNED(0.00)[i=1]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[grosbein.net]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_PERMFAIL(0.00)[empty SPF record]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.01)[-0.014]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:24940, ipnet:2a01:4f8::/29, country:DE]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 20:21:08 -0000 17.08.2020 21:36, Farhan Khan wrote: > I apologize for double-posting, it appears my phone's email client removed the spacing. Resending from the web-client. > > ----- > Hi, > > I am a long-time IRC user. I see that FreeBSD recognizes the EFnet and FreeNode channels as official, as listed here: https://wiki.freebsd.org/IRC/Channels. While it continues to serve the community, there are major limitations and I feel that it might be time to migrate towards a replacement. > > The "market" of communication going forward is clearly shifting towards more feature-ful protocols, such as Slack, Discord or Gitter. The only open-source and viable option in this class systems that I see Matrix. There is an active FreeBSD channel located at #FreeBSD:matrix.org, along with a few other BSD-related channels. > > I propose making this an officially recognized channel for FreeBSD communication and encouraging migration from IRC to Matrix. What is Matrix's level of support for FreeBSD? Is there native FreeBSD client? Is there native FreeBSD server?