From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jun 9 14:41:53 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF4F32F5A5 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2020 14:41:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from kicp.uchicago.edu (kicp.uchicago.edu [128.135.20.70]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49hCW472KLz3VNy for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2020 14:41:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu) Received: from [192.168.43.231] (unknown [172.58.140.225]) (Authenticated sender: galtsev) by kicp.uchicago.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 684664E656 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2020 09:41:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Valeri Galtsev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Subject: Re: freebsd vs. netbsd Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2020 09:41:51 -0500 References: <171506d5-19aa-359e-c21d-f07257c52ebd@freenetMail.de> <20200608051434.ca70e5c5.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200608050415.GA92414@geeks.org> <7dd4776b-4326-fa9c-cd2f-2b59ca4e8e50@freenetMail.de> <20200609060503.00005548@seibercom.net> To: FreeBSD Mailing List In-Reply-To: <20200609060503.00005548@seibercom.net> Message-Id: <5A0FF055-38DE-4B83-999D-0D1649374076@kicp.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49hCW472KLz3VNy X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; ASN(0.00)[asn:160, ipnet:128.135.0.0/16, country:US]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2020 14:41:53 -0000 > On Jun 9, 2020, at 5:05 AM, Jerry wrote: >=20 > On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 21:21:05 -0500, Valeri Galtsev commented: >>> On Jun 8, 2020, at 8:56 PM, Wesley wrote: >>>=20 >>> May I ask a question, is it possible for freeBSD community to >>> develop a nice GUI like Mac OSX? current opensource desktop like KDE >>> is not behaving as well as OSX in my opinion.=20 >>=20 >> This nice GUI like MacOS=E2=80=99s is not necessarily nice in = everybody=E2=80=99s >> opinion. I for one would prefer Mate Desktop. There are several >> different DEs (Desktop Environments) which I may not like as I = didn=E2=80=99t >> blend into iPad generation, but that may be considered quite >> comparable to MacOS=E2=80=99s one. Still, compared to MS Widows = MacOS's is >> nicer (my subjective opinion), yet still there is one thing about = both >> of them: you can not choose =E2=80=9Cdock area=E2=80=9D on left, on = right (speaking >> about MS Windows), and you can not remove Apple top bar (=E2=80=9Ctop = is >> reserved for mighty Apple=E2=80=A6=E2=80=9D). So, Xwindow based DEs = cover much wider >> spectrum of tastes IMHO.=20 >>=20 >> But if there is something specific you are after, you can try to >> describe it, and I bet with so many Experts on this list, you can = hear >> viable advise. >>=20 >> Valeri >>=20 >>> Thanks. >>>=20 >>> Valeri Galtsev wrote: =20 >>>> MacOS departs farther and farther away from BSD=E2=80=A6 so some = time ago I >>>> scratched MacOS from my list of =E2=80=9CUNIXes=E2=80=9D. = Administering server on >>>> MacOS became unbearable for me. I still tell all Mac laptop owners: >>>> the beauty of MacOS is that you have nice GUI, and UNIX under the >>>> hood. =20 >=20 > Valeri, are you sure about that 'docking on left' statement. I have > read several articles on exactly how to do it in Win 10. I am not sure > about older versions though. >=20 If it is possible, then I stand corrected. As one for whom MS Windows is = not the favorite system (Microsoft is the only system vendor I know who = tell you it is not safe to run their system without 3rd party software: = antivirus), I do give them credit, say, for having decently long = lifetime of system releases. And still, as sysadmin, I support all systems. Even more: all systems = suck, and thanks to that I have my job. Antivirus, well, it is logically flawed thinking. You can not enumerate = bad. You can do an opposite thing: enumerate good, and prohibit = everything else. Don=E2=80=99t get me started=E2=80=A6 Valeri > --=20 > Jerry