From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Dec 2 15:54:27 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22878 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 15:54:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from set.scient.com (set.Scient.COM [208.29.209.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA22871 for ; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 15:54:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from enkhyl@scient.com) Received: by set.scient.com; (5.65v4.0/1.3/10May95) id AA06061; Wed, 2 Dec 1998 15:53:50 -0800 Received: from somewhere by smtpxd Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 15:53:39 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher Nielsen X-Sender: enkhyl@ender.sf.scient.com Reply-To: cnielsen@pobox.com To: Eivind Eklund Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can we just come to a decision on IPv6 and IPSec? In-Reply-To: <19981202165155.B21015@follo.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 2 Dec 1998, Eivind Eklund wrote: > Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 16:51:55 +0100 > From: Eivind Eklund > To: Jordan K. Hubbard , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Can we just come to a decision on IPv6 and IPSec? > > On Tue, Dec 01, 1998 at 07:58:38PM -0800, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > Today is December 1st (in my timezone, anyway) and we're rapidly > > running out of year. When we brought this up 6 months or so ago, the > > general concensus seemed to be that we'd make *some* sort of decision > > on which way to go by the end of the year. Well, here we are. It's > > not like our brethren OSes have exactly stood still in this department > > and what's worse is that we have numerous people standing in the wings > > just WANTING TO DO THE WORK if someone will only let them, one example > > being IPSec which is currently languishing in our PR database and has > > been freely discussed on forums like Daemon News (see > > http://www.daemonnews.org/199812/security.html). > > > > This fence rail is pointy and cold and I think we're all going to come > > down with an embarrassing medical condition if we keep sitting on it. > > Since nobody else seems to want to say anything: KAME. My impression > is that it is more mature _and_ have more developers (both from among > our own committers and in general). I agree with Eivind on this. I've been poking around in both the INRIA and KAME code, and IMHO, the KAME code appears much cleaner. It's also well supported, as Eivind pointed out. I had started working on integrating the KAME distribution into -current, but I haven't had as much time as I had expected. -- Christopher Nielsen Scient: The eBusiness Systems Innovator cnielsen@scient.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message